2013-2014 Roster

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

No argument here.

That said, trading for some of these guys, who may be asking for more money than their teams are willing to pay out, might be an option worth investigating.

There are some guys on the list that Feaster should offer sheet under $3.3 million. That way it only costs a 2nd. Granted the players i would want for a 2nd, the other teams would match.

[jofillips]

so with this huge cap space, nobody thinks feaster will do ANYTHING for a proper centre??
I could swear he's mentioned it (and this board) so many times he could well be fired for not getting a franchise centre by next season...

[korzym12]

MacKinnon.

[JurassicTunga12]

Just for kicks:

Baertschi - Backlund - Horton
Tanguay - Bozak - Cammalleri
Glencross - Horak - Hudler
Bouma - Reinhart - Jackman/McGrattan

Giordano - Wideman
Butler - Brodie
Sarich - Cundari
Breen

Ramo
MacDonald

Cammalleri/Tanguay/Stajan/Stempniak/Sarich I think would be traded at the draft or at the trade deadline to open up a spot for young guys to come up. Just some ideas.

I have a feeling Feaster will definitely try to get Horton and Bozak

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Been really bored reading the same threads over the past few weeks here on CP, so I wanted to create a new one. Tough to come up with new threads at this time of year, so let's look at next year.

With the Draft on June 30, Jay Feaster has the best opportunity in franchise history to completely change the dynamic of his club's prospect pool, but let's be realistic here, it's very remote that any of those picks are actually going to play for Calgary next season. Abbotsford though, could look very promising with the subtraction/addition of numerous bodies.

If I had to guess, Nemisz, Lamb, Cameron, Aliu, Bancks, Patterson, Irving, Testwuide, Kolanos and Taylor are all unlikely to be re-signed.

Likely replacing them will be Wotherspoon, Granlund, Brossoit, Ramage, Hanowski and one of Berra/Ortio. Add in potential picks from this year's draft and some possible college signings and the Heat could look significantly different next season.

HEAT FORWARDS
Ferland / Granlund / Hanowski
Elson / Walter / Howse
/ Street / Eddy
/ Jones /

HEAT DEFENCEMEN
Ramage / Wotherspoon
Smith / Breen
Martin / Carson

HEAT GOALIES
Brossoit
Berra
Ortio

So that leaves Feaster with the following roster, based on my best-guess for who makes the squad on opening night.

FLAMES FORWARDS
Mike Cammalleri / Mikael Backlund / Lee Stempniak
Alex Tanguay / Matt Stajan / Jiri Hudler
Sven Baertschi / Max Reinhart / Curtis Glencross
Roman Horak / Lance Bouma / Tim Jackman

FLAMES DEFENSEMEN
Dennis Wideman / Mark Giordano
Chris Butler / T.J. Brodie
Cory Sarich/ Mark Cundari

FLAMES GOALTENDERS
Joey MacDonald
Kari Ramo

This isn't pretty, no matter how you slice it. One thing I don't want to see under any circumstance, is Feaster attempt to "upgrade" these slots with Free Agent signings because of the crazy amount of cap space he's going to have. The Flames will have more than 20M in cap freedom.

All this would accomplish, would be to send Baertschi, Horak and Reinhart to the minors, something I'm sure none of us want to see happen.

What I believe needs to happen, is subtraction before addition, via the trading of at least two of the following veterans, Tanguay, Cammalleri, Stajan and Glencross.

Free up some NHL roster spots, then you can start looking at Free Agents and trades, and more importantly, allow your guys to start playing in their natural positions, which simply is not possible with the current setup.

Until then, this is the roster we're stuck with, so let's all get ready for another abysmal season because WE ARE ALL GOING TO NEED TO get hammered all year long.

Spoiler!

Until they need to lose to ensure their top draft pick, at which point they will go on a 9-2-1 run to finish the year.

Thoughts?

tried to fix your post.
am i right?

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

List of RFAs - http://capgeek.com/free-agents/?year...1&fa_type_id=1

Who would you give up your 2014 1st rounder for?

Just Pietrangelo... Maybe Rask, but not likely.. I love Rask, though.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by jofillips

so with this huge cap space, nobody thinks feaster will do ANYTHING for a proper centre??
I could swear he's mentioned it (and this board) so many times he could well be fired for not getting a franchise centre by next season...

What franchise centre is he getting? Not likely we're gonna solve the centre issue through free agency. Not likely we're gonna get a franchise centre through trade.

The best way for us to get a franchise centre is to draft one this year. That player plus Backlund should make us a nice 1-2 punch. Have you not been paying attention to all the draft talk?

[Itse]

Well, not like the topic is new, but yeah, why not a new thread...

As many on this board have said many times, we have too many small skill forwards and not enough big forwards. So basicly for this team to be any good next year, some guys need to go and new guys need to be brought in. I have no faith in Feasters ability to do that, but we'll see.

If Feaster is adamant in his "post-apex" ideology and is desperate to look like he's "bringing in the pieces for a future run", it could easily go bad, as there's a high risk of overpaying for a couple of years for some pretty good sort-of-big player who is young enough to fit the image Feaster is after, but really will in the end just be overpayed, overhyped and not under contract when it matters. A bad GM will even lose draft picks in this process. This would be the Leafs West approach.

On the other hand if Feaster just accepts that it really doesn't matter much where he gets his big player (or two), he has much more options and there's a good chance we could even turn that guy into a draft pick or something at trade deadline, like Dallas did with Jagr.

And yes, at least one of Tanguay, Cammalleri and Stajan need to go to make the roster more balanced for next season. Tanguay would be first out on my list, given his tendency to stop trying if things are not going his way (done it twice already in this team alone), and due to Cammalleri being the potential new captain and Stajan being a center.

[FlameZilla]

As it stands now (assuming the RFAs are signed):

Tanguay Cammalleri Stempniak
Baertschi Backlund Horak
Glenncross Stajan Hudler
______ Jones Jackman

Giordano Wideman
Brodie Sarich
Butler ______
Smith

MacDonald
Berra

Of our UFAs, I would sign McGrattan to league minimum & one of Aliu or Nemisz (only because we have ZERO RW depth). I'd try & sign Carson to a 2-way deal, which I doubt he accepts. I'd also test Agostino's resolve to stay at Yale by offering him a nice entry-level deal.

The _____blanks_____ in the lineup are filled at camp. McGrattan, Bouma, Reinhart, Jones, Aliu, Nemisz & to a lesser extent Hanowski all battle it out for bottom 6 roles. Cundari, Carson, Breen, Smith, Wotherspoon & Kulak duke it out for bottom pairing & 7th D roles.

Feaster makes a play for various UFAs, mainly Horton, Fillpula, Ribeiro (yuck) & Mike Smith. Thankfully, none of them sign.

If I were GM, this is what I'd try at the draft:

To TB: CGY 1st round pick (6) + PITT 1st round pick (25-30)
To CGY: TB 1st round pick (3) Mackinnon, Drouin or Barkov
(6th overall + another 1st rounder is more than enough to trade up to #3. I'm not sure it's really worth it, but if Mackinnon is still on the board then it certainly could be)

To LA: Alex Tanguay
To CGY: LA 2013 2nd round pick
(Darryl would sanction this as he's always used 2nd rounders as currency )

With #3 select Mackinnon, #19-22 select Pulock (who drops) and grab Eric Comrie late 2nd round.


Go into the season with:

Glenncross/Stajan/Stempniak
Baertschi/Backlund/Hudler
Cammalleri/Mackinnon/Horak
McGrattan/Reinhart/Jackman
Bouma

Giordano/Wideman
Brodie/Sarich
Butler/Cundari
Breen

MacDonald
Berra

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

As it stands now (assuming the RFAs are signed):

Tanguay Cammalleri Stempniak
Baertschi Backlund Horak
Glenncross Stajan Hudler
______ Jones Jackman

Giordano Wideman
Brodie Sarich
Butler ______
Smith

MacDonald
Berra

Of our UFAs, I would sign McGrattan to league minimum & one of Aliu or Nemisz (only because we have ZERO RW depth). I'd try & sign Carson to a 2-way deal, which I doubt he accepts. I'd also test Agostino's resolve to stay at Yale by offering him a nice entry-level deal.

The _____blanks_____ in the lineup are filled at camp. McGrattan, Bouma, Reinhart, Jones, Aliu, Nemisz & to a lesser extent Hanowski all battle it out for bottom 6 roles. Cundari, Carson, Breen, Smith, Wotherspoon & Kulak duke it out for bottom pairing & 7th D roles.

Feaster makes a play for various UFAs, mainly Horton, Fillpula, Ribeiro (yuck) & Mike Smith. Thankfully, none of them sign.

If I were GM, this is what I'd try at the draft:

To TB: CGY 1st round pick (6) + PITT 1st round pick (25-30)
To CGY: TB 1st round pick (3) Mackinnon, Drouin or Barkov
(6th overall + another 1st rounder is more than enough to trade up to #3. I'm not sure it's really worth it, but if Mackinnon is still on the board then it certainly could be)

To LA: Alex Tanguay
To CGY: LA 2013 2nd round pick
(Darryl would sanction this as he's always used 2nd rounders as currency )

With #3 select Mackinnon, #19-22 select Pulock (who drops) and grab Eric Comrie late 2nd round.


Go into the season with:

Glenncross/Stajan/Stempniak
Baertschi/Backlund/Hudler
Cammalleri/Mackinnon/Horak
McGrattan/Reinhart/Jackman
Bouma

Giordano/Wideman
Brodie/Sarich
Butler/Cundari
Breen

MacDonald
Berra

TB would never do that trade. To get into the top 3 is going to cost more than a late 1st round pick.

LA has no need for Tanguay. Who's spot on the top 6 for LA would he replace? Also its not up to Sutter to trade a 2nd round pick, he is not the GM.

Flames also don't have a 2nd round pick.

[Flames_F.T.W]

I'd be interested in Wheeler and Berglund... but not at the expense of next year's 1st. These are the kinds of guys I would be o.k. with moving the STL or PIT 1sts for in some kind of package, as they are in the appropriate age range that we're looking for. Oh, and they're both big, and size is REAL important for us

[Fire in the disco]

I havene heard anything about Patrick Sieloff, although I seem to remember he was touted as a big physically skilled defenseman. Is he still to far away to make a potential jump? Also what about Jankowski? Any chance he gets to Abby next year?

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

One thing I don't want to see under any circumstance, is Feaster attempt to "upgrade" these slots with Free Agent signings because of the crazy amount of cap space he's going to have. The Flames will have more than 20M in cap freedom.

All this would accomplish, would be to send Baertschi, Horak and Reinhart to the minors, something I'm sure none of us want to see happen.

Expect to be disappointed. Feaster has stressed repeatedly that the team isn't rebuilding, and they want to turn things around fast. I expect to see a couple $3-5 mil free agent signings - probably two forwards with size. Bozak and Horton/Clarkson sound about right.

As for addition by subtraction, I think they'll probably move one of the Cammaleri/Tanguay/Stempniak during the season once they see how the young forwards are panning out - probably closer to the trade deadline.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Fire in the disco

I havene heard anything about Patrick Sieloff, although I seem to remember he was touted as a big physically skilled defenseman. Is he still to far away to make a potential jump? Also what about Jankowski? Any chance he gets to Abby next year?

Don't expect to see Jankowski for another 2-3 years at least.

Seiloff will probably be the season after next.

[bubbsy]

i would be fine with Feaster not chasing UFA dreams with large salary cap hits (horton, bozak), though it would make the team fun to watch as early as this coming season.

I would be fine to have feaster go with the lineup of kids with the vets we have for another year, and get some more quality youth, while having vets like tanguay/cammalleri for a good chunk of the season (ie. till the deadline).

[JJsChaos]

That lineup should get us:

2014 - Aaron Ekblad
2015 - Connor McDavid

If that actually happens I'm the happiest fan in the world.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by JJsChaos

That lineup should get us:

2014 - Aaron Ekblad
2015 - Connor McDavid

If that actually happens I'm the happiest fan in the world.

How much joy can a sports fan get from watching their team roll out 26th, 30th and 30th place finishes, and then puckering up real tight on draft lottery day to see if our 25% chance at those two players actually holds up?

Happiest fan in the world. lol

[Freeway]

Players On One-Way Deals:

G: Miikka Kiprusoff, Joey MacDonald
D: Dennis Wideman, Derek Smith, Cory Sarich, Mark Giordano
F: Alex Tanguay, Matt Stajan, Lee Stempniak, Jiri Hudler, Mike Cammalleri, Curtis Glencross, Tim Jackman, Blair Jones

Players On Two-Way Deals:

G: Reto Berra, Laurent Brossoit, Joni Ortio
D: Tyler Wotherspoon, John Ramage, James Martin
F: Roman Horak, Max Reinhart, Sven Baertschi, Ben Street, Ben Hanowski, Markus Granlund, Ryan Howse, Michael Ferland, Turner Elson, David Eddy

[BACKCHECK!!!]

2013-2014 depth charts based on ice time.

What I expect:

Tanguay Bozak Big 2nd/3rd Liner UFA
Cammalleri Backlund Stempniak
Glencross Stajan Hudler
Baertschi 6th Overall Horak
Byron/Jackman

Giordano (C) Wideman
Sarich Brodie
Smith UFA
Breen/Cundari

Ramo
McDonald

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What I Want To See:

Cammalleri (C) Grabovski Stempniak
Baertschi Backlund Clutterbuck
Glencross Barkov Hudler
Bouma Reinhart Horak
McGrattan

Alzner Wideman
Giordano Brodie
Sarich Cundari
Breen

Ramo
McDonald



Buyout/cap-dump candidates I'd like to see on the Flames: Grabovski, Lecavallier

Offer sheet/RFA trade candidates I'd like to see on the Flames: Alzner, Clutterbuck

UFAs I'd like to see on the Flames: Horton, Ryder

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by jofillips

so with this huge cap space, nobody thinks feaster will do ANYTHING for a proper centre??

There are no good proper centers available for just cap space. Bozak is the best and he's not even that good... I mean he's alright but nothing to go gaga over.

I wonder if Philly wants to keep Timonen or if he's a buyout candidate for them. We need help on D, Philly is in Cap hell, he's not a long-term investment maybe we could fill a hole on the blueline and squeeze something out of the Flyers for taking on such a hefty contract for a year?