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Old 05-07-2013, 08:48 AM   #21
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i used to think this as well - but when you see the established players that were offered for him, that sets his market value.......you can't make an offer of 4 establsihed players for him and then pay him $350,000 a year.....

I never knew the Flames were in the mix for him
Ya, this is a good trade the Flames didn't make. Strictly because of the money the Flames we not willing to pay for players over the next 10 years.

He would have signed entry level, put up crazy numbers, not got hurt, demanded a stupid salary. The Flames would have balked and traded him for a package of somebodies, and we all know how well we do on those.

At least we know Iggy came out of this timeline. In the "Flames get Lindros" timeline, I see him playing here for 3 years and bolting for NYC/TOR. Flames stuck with a package of who knows what...
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I'm not sure how close we were, but we offered:
  • Mike Vernon,
  • Al MacInnis,
  • Joe Nieuwendyk
  • draft picks
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=90018
Three HOFers and draft picks.... even if Lindros was the next Gretzky, this would have been a bad trade. So if Quebec/Colorado has those players instead of Forsberg, Duchesne, Roy, Ricci, etc., do they win their Cup? Do they win more than just 1996 and 2001? Interesting times. Really, it set the course for the next 10 years, the way that trade shook out. The players the Flames were offering became prominent figures for Colorado's main rivals for the next few years in Detroit, Dallas, and to a lesser extent, the Blues.

Philly got their superstar, but as mentioned in this thread, what more could he have been?
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I see Lindros as kind of a tragic character at this point. The greatest "what could have been" player. There is no denying that his peak as a player was almost unrivaled.
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Lindros was certainly a physical beast in his day, but I'm not so sure he would have been a star in the new NHL with his skating. I think that even if Stevens didn't hit him, his career would have been ended by someone else.
Skating was one of his main selling points. He was one of the first really big guys who could skate. A star in any era, imo.
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i used to think this as well - but when you see the established players that were offered for him, that sets his market value.......you can't make an offer of 4 establsihed players for him and then pay him $350,000 a year.....

I never knew the Flames were in the mix for him
I don't care who you are, no rookie player, playing in his first career game, should be earning more than every player in the league, let alone Wayne Gretzky in his prime.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:56 AM   #27
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I see Lindros as kind of a tragic character at this point. The greatest "what could have been" player. There is no denying that his peak as a player was almost unrivaled.
He definitely belongs in the group of greatest players of all time and I hate to see injury get in the way of what could have been, but I still have trouble respecting him on the way he handled being drafted by the Nordiques.
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He definitely belongs in the group of greatest players of all time and I hate to see injury get in the way of what could have been, but I still have trouble respecting him on the way he handled being drafted by the Nordiques.
Yeah but that's all inconsequential at this point. When talking former players, I like to focus on them as players on the ice especially a guy like Lindros who was polarizing in his time but his time is now long over and all of that stuff didn't matter anyway. What mattered was the type of player he was on the ice.
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He definitely belongs in the group of greatest players of all time and I hate to see injury get in the way of what could have been, but I still have trouble respecting him on the way he handled being drafted by the Nordiques.
He didn't handle it, family and others did what was best for him and his career......they thought.
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I don't care who you are, no rookie player, playing in his first career game, should be earning more than every player in the league, let alone Wayne Gretzky in his prime.
Why don't we let the market decide those things, which clearly thought that Lindros was worth the money.
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Why don't we let the market decide those things, which clearly thought that Lindros was worth the money.
Clearly it was a problem because there are extreme limitations on what rookies can be paid now.

The market didn't dictate what Crosby was paid for his first 3years
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Personally I always thought the guy was kind of goof..Didn't like is attitude.
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I always get shot for saying this, but if I had a choice between Lindros and Forsberg in their prime, I take Forsberg 10/10 times.

Lindros was a sniveling little baby that got a large dose of karma.
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In his prime, he was the best power forward in NHL history
1. Peter Forsberg
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I always get shot for saying this, but if I had a choice between Lindros and Forsberg in their prime, I take Forsberg 10/10 times.
Who in their right mind disagrees with this?
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I remember guys would line up to hit him and end up sprawled on the ice. He was a beast.
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I always get shot for saying this, but if I had a choice between Lindros and Forsberg in their prime, I take Forsberg 10/10 times.

Lindros was a sniveling little baby that got a large dose of karma.

I don't get the Quebec situation, but in Philly, he was concerned about things people worry about today, ahead of the curve, and vilified unduly.

10/10? Joe Sakic is being diplomatic and takes your advice under advisement but John LeClair disagrees.

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The Legion of Doom era Lindros was a force of nature. You'd watch him on some shifts and he'd be like a pinball out there, bowling people over & then making really sweet plays. I wasn't a huge fan at the time, but I respected his skill.
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I remember him fighting Cale Hulse. I was so pumped because Hulse was a very good fighter AND a lefty so i thought Hulse would really give it to im. Instead, the Big E manhandled him and seemed to intimidate Hulse the entire fight. I was flabbergasted. Looking back it goes to show how physically dominant he was.
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I always get shot for saying this, but if I had a choice between Lindros and Forsberg in their prime, I take Forsberg 10/10 times.

Lindros was a sniveling little baby that got a large dose of karma.
In their primes and in the so-called dead puck era, I would take Lindros. In today's NHL, I probably would still take Lindros but it's tougher. People often forget to take into account the era the players played in and also how good a player really was when at his best. Forsberg is probably one of the best all around players to ever play the game but he is no where near the sheer offensive force as some of the all time greats. If you compare Forsberg to Lindros at their best during the Lindros' best years, there's no question that Lindros was the better offensive player. Lindros was also the better faceoff man.

Lindros was pretty much what you wanted out of a franchise player. He pretty much built the stadium the Flyers are playing now. He was that good. Forsberg was good too, but I wonder how much his superior supporting cast contributing to things. Really though, if you were building a team, it's hard to pass up the 6'4" 230 pound center.
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