TSN’s Bob MacKenzie says Craig MacTavish’s bold move could be trading 1st pick

[Bourque's Twin]

What if they traded their 1st round pick + The Nuge (or something similar) to Nashville for Shea Weber? Edmonton immediately gets that #1 stud defenseman and Nashville enters a full on rebuild with the 4th and 5th picks and draft Barkov + Nurse or Barkov + Nichushkin.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Bourque's Twin

What if they traded their 1st round pick + The Nuge (or something similar) to Nashville for Shea Weber? Edmonton immediately gets that #1 stud defenseman and Nashville enters a full on rebuild with the 4th and 5th picks and draft Barkov + Nurse or Barkov + Nichushkin.

And then Edmonton's #1 centre is Sam Gagner.

That team made a huge mistake picking Yakupov when Galchenyuk was on the board.

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

And then Edmonton's #1 centre is Sam Gagner.

That team made a huge mistake picking Yakupov when Galchenyuk was on the board.

What do you expect from a team whose scouting consists of picking the guy whose on the cover of the draft magazine.

[comrade]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Edmonton has reached the Bouwmeester dilemma.... They have great players who are losers.

They won't win with them and very soon they will be only able to get a 15th round pick and a couple of prospects for them.

They like the Flames will be better when they finally bite the bullet and get rid of them.

They have a harder problem..... other than Gagner.... who has been a Oiler for 6 years now and "led" has not won any games for them.... it is harder to identify the problem child.

Eberle and Hall 3 years each.... Eberle is turning 23 next month and his 6M/year kicks

any of the Edmonton STARS might not hurt a team lead by a Pronger to the degree Bouwmeester did to the Flames but sure doesn't appear that any of them have the Royal jelly to carry a team into contention.


This year is really the tipping point where everyone has to realize that not only are the Oilers not as good as the sum of their parts....... Some of their parts are not near as good or valuable as they are being given credit for.

Would you trade Hall-Eberle and RHN for Stewart, Backes and Steen? Not on paper but St.L. will likely be in the playoffs for the next 2-3 years... where will the Oilers be?

You're joking right? You think that a bunch of kids on their first contracts are all losers that should be traded away?

[Husky]

I see the Oilers making 2 moves for huge shakeup.

1 - This only works if Jones is taken first and Edmonton/Carolina have the next 2 picks (or Drouin and Mackinnon) are still on the table together during picks. Something along the lines of Skinner and McBain for Oilers 1st. Carolina then drafts the combo duo.

2 - Oilers then flip Yakupov, MPS and something type package for Lucic and Krjeci; assuming Boston exits early and wants to "retool" like the Flyers did with Carter/Richards.

Oilers can then go hard at a guy like Horton.

They would just need a defensive D for their top 4 (and a goalie).

Lucic - Krejci - Horton
Hall - RNH - Eberle
Skinner - Gagne - Hemsky

This is all fantasy talk. Would never happen. But the Oilers do have quality assets they can move.

[amazing_oilers]

Not a chance Iginla signs with Edmonton. For one he has too much respect for Calgary fans and that'd be about as big of slap to them he could give. Secondly he's said he wants to win a cup and then another so why would he go to a team that is still rebuilding? Likely he takes a pay cut and stays with the Pens or goes to someother team that gets deep but doesn't quite make it. As for Edmonton the only way they should part with the lottery pick is if its someone established and still in or close to their prime. Not sure who'd be available that would make sense. Weber, Lucic (doubt the Bruins would move him) I don't know.

[moon]

I think that Boston deal is very heavily in Oilers favor can't imagine Boston wanting to do that.

MPS is not a very good player and shouldn't have much value at all as he looks like an okay 3rd line guy with no top 6 upside.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Muffins

What do you expect from a team whose scouting consists of picking the guy whose on the cover of the draft magazine.

The Oilers passed on Parise to draft the big center MAP.

I suspect passing on Yakupov to select Murray looks pretty similar 5 years down the road.

[speeds]

IMO, it's unlikely EDM would get enough value back to move their 1st pick but as always it depends on the deal.

I think they could use improvement to their D, but if it were me I'd be looking for other ways to do so, ways that don't cost one of the top end forwards likely to be available when EDM picks.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

And then Edmonton's #1 centre is Sam Gagner.

That team made a huge mistake picking Yakupov when Galchenyuk was on the board.

I remember people saying they should have taken Murray but I always felt Galchenyuk was the right move.

Flip your 1st pick with Montreal's 3rd and gain another asset.

Montreal: Yakupov
Columbus: Murray
Oilers: Galchenyuk

Having two top tier centers (Galchenyuk, RNH) and two top tier wingers (Hall, Eberle) would have been the best move for the team. Plus they could have then moved Gagner for help on defense.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Husky

I see the Oilers making 2 moves for huge shakeup.

1 - This only works if Jones is taken first and Edmonton/Carolina have the next 2 picks (or Drouin and Mackinnon) are still on the table together during picks. Something along the lines of Skinner and McBain for Oilers 1st. Carolina then drafts the combo duo.

Whey would the Hurricane's give up Skinner who is 20 years old and McBain who is 25, they will both be parts of any Hurricane rebuild. If the Oilers want Skinner they are giving up one of their big 6 players who's name does not rhyme with Blackablov.

Originally Posted by Husky

2 - Oilers then flip Yakupov, MPS and something type package for Lucic and Krjeci; assuming Boston exits early and wants to "retool" like the Flyers did with Carter/Richards.

My god, that's not going to happen. That something in your package would be a top 3 forward. Boston is not going to trade those two for what your stating. They consider Lucic to be a franchise level player, and Krjeci is far better then MPS.

Those are two deals that the Oilers would have to gut themselves to get.

Originally Posted by Husky

Oilers can then go hard at a guy like Horton.

They would just need a defensive D for their top 4 (and a goalie).

Lucic - Krejci - Horton
Hall - RNH - Eberle
Skinner - Gagne - Hemsky

This is all fantasy talk. Would never happen. But the Oilers do have quality assets they can move.

And a totally unaffordable lineup under a cap system in about a year or two.

[albertGQ]

How much has Murray's injury hampered his development?

Erik Johnson missed an entire year & no one is saying he's elite.

[You Need a Thneed]

This is MacTavish we are talking about. His bold move will to trade Edmonton's first rounder for The Islander's fifth rounder.

[Imported_Aussie]

It is easy to look at the oiler picks and say how they could have gone different. Seguin versus Hall is evening out, but I would still rather have Tyler over Taylor, and would have gone that way on draft day. Too early on Nugent-Hopkins, as he has a lot of promise if he doesn't get injured too often, but Landeskog looks the better NHLer now. And Galchenyuk looks better than Yakupov too, but this is just on current play - it could be that if situations were reversed, the oiler kids would look better on Boston/Colorado/Montreal.
I think of all of their young guys, Eberle should be the untouchable one, as I feel he has a winning quality. Gagner would be the first to move, if there is a good market. I think that team needs to target players from winning organizations, such as Boston, Detroit, San Jose, players that have been in the playoffs and know what it takes.
San Jose may actually make a good trade partner, as they will need to re-energize their team with youth, to start to build around Couture as their main man.

[Niemo]

I would deal Giordano AND Glencross for the Oilers pick assuming it's 6th overall or better. Not sure if either side is interested though. I can see Glencross waiving his NMC to go to Edmonton.

[polak]

If Iggy ends up in Edmonton that would be the ultimate FU to Flames fans. I would never think of him the same way.

[GGG]

The first + for Shattenkirk might be on the table depending on St. Louis budget situation. They need to give their RFA's big raises and they have Jbo's contract for one more year. If they can get Jbo to resign at a lower rate longer term (jbo is a good number 2 defensemen) then trading Shattenkirk and drafting Nurse might be good for them budget wise.

[Ruttiger]

Originally Posted by Niemo

I would deal Giordano AND Glencross for the Oilers pick assuming it's 6th overall or better. Not sure if either side is interested though. I can see Glencross waiving his NMC to go to Edmonton.

A little early in the day to have consumed this much booze already, no?

[Hockey Fan #751]

I could see the Oilers moving their first rounder to a team in the 13-17 range and acquiring an asset plus their pick then drafting Lazar. If they lose their next two games, it could be a third overall pick. What would the value of that be? I can't remember the last time a team traded a pick that high outright.

[Flame19,289]

If Washington can't find a way to fit Alzner in under the cap, perhaps McPhee would package him along with the Caps 1st rounder to Edmonton in exchange for the Oilers pick.