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Old 04-24-2013, 03:30 PM   #21
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as mentioned above, leopards and all predatory animals do an awful lot of stretching and warming up. They stalk, they remain limber. Yes they may be able to attack at a moments notice but guess what so can I. I can go from couch potato to a dead run immediately and 999 times out of a 1000 I'm not going to hurt anything. And well Leopards do get hurt.

Now not saying what advice he has to offer is bad or good as I haven't read but the quick premise as described doesn't hold a lot of water.
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Old 04-24-2013, 03:41 PM   #22
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It's like making yourself more walrus-like to combat depression, because walruses never get depressed. "Embrace your inner walrus!"
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Reputation? He is practically a celebrity in the fitness world these days. At least to those of us who aren't still stuck on the ridiculous notion that 30-45 min cardio per day is the way to go.

Other than that, like Valo said, he does have the doctorate degree in physical therapy.
Jenny McCarthy is a celebrity too.

Are his theories based on any research?
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Is Kelly's book in English or that bizarre language he speaks in his MWOD videos?
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:58 PM   #26
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I bought it, based on the strength of Azure's recommendation. (No pressure, bro!) I'm a desk jockey, I'm not limber and my back hurts. Maybe the book is bunk. Maybe it's geared for elite athletes (and I'm definitely not one of those!)

I figured that for $40, I'd take that gamble and see if there might be a nugget or two in there that I can use to get stronger, more flexible and less prone to injury.

If it's crap, I'll come back here and give Azure the frowning of a lifetime.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:06 PM   #27
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I think you mean "I haven't tried everything, but this worked pretty good for me"...this review is a little over the top. Ditto for smolov.
The review might seem like it is over the top, but this guy and his book are legit. You won't find a single person that will say his methods won't work if you follow them properly.

Nice try knocking Smolov. Easily a top 3 workout out plan for any avid lifter. There is a reason people add up to 100# to their squat when they run it.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:13 PM   #28
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The idea that people should find something that works for them is great - whether from a website, forums, "professional", but in this day and age skepticism (asking questions like troutman) is key to ensuring you're getting the best information. It's so easy to latch onto someone's opinion or a certain culture.

What sorts of things have you taken from mobility WOD that you use / have used? I'm interested in hearing how he's helped you since I haven't had a chance to go through a ton of his stuff.
I originally found mobilityWOD while searching around for ways to fix chronic tennis elbow issues.

http://www.mobilitywod.com/2012/04/b...is-do-you.html

Purchased the Voodoo Bands a couple days later, and within 2 weeks I was pretty much pain free. For the first time in ten years I am also throwing the baseball pain free.

Sprained both my ankles about 8 years ago. Never knew much about anything back then, so I did the RICE treatment, or however they call it these days. Like most people with severely sprained ankles, I had issues with them until I started using the Voodoo Bands to break down old tissue and help me restore my mobility. Haven't felt any issues since.

There are other things, but those two were the biggest.
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:15 PM   #29
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as mentioned above, leopards and all predatory animals do an awful lot of stretching and warming up. They stalk, they remain limber. Yes they may be able to attack at a moments notice but guess what so can I. I can go from couch potato to a dead run immediately and 999 times out of a 1000 I'm not going to hurt anything. And well Leopards do get hurt.

Now not saying what advice he has to offer is bad or good as I haven't read but the quick premise as described doesn't hold a lot of water.
I probably screwed up the description. He explained it somewhere. If someone is interested they can go look.

And I highly doubt you can go from a real couch potato to a dead run, and you won't have issues of some kind. Most couch potatoes have serious mobility problems from sitting all day. Shortened hip flexor for one.
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This wmod stuff seems to be just physio therapy excercises. They appear pretty good but Im not seeing anything revolutionary here. Although having it one place accessible for a low cost does have some value.
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I originally found mobilityWOD while searching around for ways to fix chronic tennis elbow issues.

http://www.mobilitywod.com/2012/04/b...is-do-you.html

Purchased the Voodoo Bands a couple days later, and within 2 weeks I was pretty much pain free. For the first time in ten years I am also throwing the baseball pain free.

Sprained both my ankles about 8 years ago. Never knew much about anything back then, so I did the RICE treatment, or however they call it these days. Like most people with severely sprained ankles, I had issues with them until I started using the Voodoo Bands to break down old tissue and help me restore my mobility. Haven't felt any issues since.

There are other things, but those two were the biggest.
That's great that those worked for you.

I'm not trying to say what you got from him didn't help, but lax ankles and chronic tennis elbow are very common and have a lot of treatment options. You just need the right exercises, not necessarily a product. Those of which you may need sometime in the future since those bands aren't necessarily addressing the actual cause / issue.

Also, Smolov isn't anything revolutionary; it's periodization wrapped in a marketable form. Similar to mobility WOD. Or P90x. People will pay for a packaged form of something, which is great for them - I just think that it's much more valuable to learn about the concepts behind these things and have the power to come up with similar / better routines for yourself.
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So I'm a chiropractor and a lot of this is kind of a repackaged idea of what has been around for a long time. This is nothing new to me, but it is new to MOST people. I'd say it's good information to get to as many people as possible as I try to do on a regular basis. Still learning myself, so I may read this to get some ideas for my patients' management plans.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:42 AM   #33
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Chiropractors that actually practice ART are few and far between in my experience.

You have to specifically look for them.
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I was worried that this was about bloody furries and have avoided it. Still not totally glad I clicked
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Chiropractors that actually practice ART are few and far between in my experience.

You have to specifically look for them.
I practice ART.

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I'm not trying to knock you. Just pointing out that a lot of people think chiropractors are a crock because many just pop here and push there and tell you everything is alright.

If you practice ART, good on you. I wish there were more. I know a lot of people that spend thousands of dollars per year going back to the same chiropractor because he has convinced them that they need to in order to feel better.
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I'm not trying to knock you. Just pointing out that a lot of people think chiropractors are a crock because many just pop here and push there and tell you everything is alright.

If you practice ART, good on you. I wish there were more. I know a lot of people that spend thousands of dollars per year going back to the same chiropractor because he has convinced them that they need to in order to feel better.
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I'm not trying to knock you. Just pointing out that a lot of people think chiropractors are a crock because many just pop here and push there and tell you everything is alright.

If you practice ART, good on you. I wish there were more. I know a lot of people that spend thousands of dollars per year going back to the same chiropractor because he has convinced them that they need to in order to feel better.
Agreed. I'm trying to change my profession and their viewpoints, but it's an uphill battle.
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I have used the mobility WOD here and there for some ideas. It is definitely useful for getting mobility. I will use some of his stuff along with others for warm ups and between sets of exercises in my workouts and my clients. I have found it helpful with a lot of injuries.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:35 PM   #40
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I got the book and am glad I got it. It would be most useful to people who are serious athletes, into weightlifting, or sit at a desk all day and can't figure out why they're always stiff and in pain. If you aren't interested or concerned about any of the above - the book isn't for you.

I fall into the last category - I totally skipped all the parts about improving my weightfting technique and moved directly on to addressing why my back hurts, my elbows and shoulders hurt, and why I move around like the tin man.

The parts about body mechanics, and really, really basic stuff about standing, walking and sitting has been a real eye opener. At first I was offended! (Look, I know how to stand, walk, and sit already, OK?) But I approached it with an open mind and am finding the explanations and suggestions to be useful.

I'm not physically capable (right now) of doing a single squat or pushup with correct form. I don't typically DO either on a regular basis - but the muscles of my back, hips and abs are too tight, too weak, or just don't have the full range of motion needed to pull off these basic moves. That was rude awakening!

I've been smashing, flossing, and (gently) loading various joints and muscle systems - and can say that I'm moving better through the feet and back after only 3 days. The book makes the point of don't just do the excercise for the sake of doing them - figure out where your motion is restricted and measure the improvements. I notice a difference in shoulder-checking, and the pain in my feet is better enough to make me consider wearing shoes with heels again.

Techniques like "joint gapping" seemed a little too weird and scary for me to be willing to try. After day 3 - I decided to (cautiously) try it on a creaky knee. In practice, the technique is surprisingly gentle - very similar to applying traction to an injured limb in first aid. After gapping the knee - I was able to improve range of motion in the joint and stretch out the surrounding musculature much more effectively. Too soon to say if there's improved range of motion or stability in the knee.

I can't say that Becomming a Supple Leopard has changed my life - but it was good information that arrived at a time when I really needed it, and it seems to be helping.
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