04-14-2013, 09:44 AM
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#21
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One of the Nine
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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef
Who gives a #### who said what in the pre-game.
The guy is hurt, the first thought shouldn't be trade value. Show some damn compassion.
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lol
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04-14-2013, 10:19 AM
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#22
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by bertuzzied
oh. He's not out because of a missing heart?
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04-14-2013, 10:24 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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I am sorry he is injured but he still needs to go. He is a whiner and a pouter and he will do nothing good for the young guys coming up. All they will learn from him is how to coast and quit on the team. Buy him out.
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04-14-2013, 10:33 AM
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#24
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Regina
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I am glad Alex injury is not as bad as it looked.
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04-14-2013, 10:48 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Hate when guys get injured like that, even if I don't like them. I do hope he isn't on the team next year but I still hope he gets better soon
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04-14-2013, 10:58 AM
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#26
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by browna
Said before, said again, he's exactly what amnesty buyouts were meant for. With the only player he was happy playing with and put up consistent numbers with the last parts of 6 seasons now off the roster, he is probably untradeable imo (outside of to the them Iginla lands on in the summer), another 3 years here makes zero sense on this team as it transitions.
Still has the skill and have met him once, a nice enough guy, and tough that it has to be on a knee injury...hopefully he fully recovers...but time to go.
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No he wasnt. Amnesty buyouts were meant for teams that needed a way out of contracts to get under the lowering of the salary cap.
The Flames are a loooong way from needing anything of the sort and I suspect Tanguay will be here at least next year if not for the duration of his deal unless he requests to be moved.
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04-14-2013, 11:13 AM
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#27
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
No he wasnt. Amnesty buyouts were meant for teams that needed a way out of contracts to get under the lowering of the salary cap.
The Flames are a loooong way from needing anything of the sort and I suspect Tanguay will be here at least next year if not for the duration of his deal unless he requests to be moved.
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I hypothesize that he won't be back next year and will be bought out. Not because he isn't "worth his contract", but because he really doesn't fit into what the Flames are trying to achieve right now.
The young players will play next year, and, although he may be a better option than Sven (LW), Glencross (LW) and Reinhart(LW), in the present, I don't think he'll be around as he fills a roster spot that a young player needs to develop.
It's a numbers game now, and what he can bring today is not necessarily what will drive the decision to keep him around.
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04-14-2013, 11:55 AM
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#28
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In the Sin Bin
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Sure, and how many centres do we have better than him?
There is a place for Tanguay next year. If for no other reason than to hope he has a stronger season and can be dealt next spring.
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04-14-2013, 12:44 PM
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#29
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In the Sin Bin
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The Flames haven't bought anybody out since Dawes? People actually think ownership would pay Tanguay millions to play for someone else? Almost no chance of that happening IMO. We're not buying anybody out IMO.
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04-14-2013, 01:09 PM
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#30
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Sure, and how many centres do we have better than him?
There is a place for Tanguay next year. If for no other reason than to hope he has a stronger season and can be dealt next spring.
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I do hope he will follow Iginla to Pittsburgh. We need room for the young guys.
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04-14-2013, 01:10 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Psytic
3.5 mill 27 pts in 40 games. "Disappointing season and may be a buyout candidate" ? I can't figure out why everyone seems to think this guy isn't an NHL player anymore. He is one dimensional but he can still play hockey.
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Tanguay is an NHL player, especially strictly based on numbers, but this year Tanguay was playing hockey shifts like its a 9-5 job. I really miss to see Tanguay hussle for a puck, finish a check, or show some heart. Also this year Tanguay had even a harder time winning the puck around the boards, keeping the puck in the opposing zone, and pressuring the puck. All those things combined is what results in Tanguay being on a pace for +/- of minus 26 in a full season, which leads to my personal conclusion that he is costing this team while he is on the ice.
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04-14-2013, 02:06 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Some people actually think the Flames are going to buy out a 0.70+ point per game winger on a $3.5 million cap hit when they are currently flirting with next years cap floor?
Don't see it happening.
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04-14-2013, 03:04 PM
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#33
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by MacFlame
I hypothesize that he won't be back next year and will be bought out. Not because he isn't "worth his contract", but because he really doesn't fit into what the Flames are trying to achieve right now.
The young players will play next year, and, although he may be a better option than Sven (LW), Glencross (LW) and Reinhart(LW), in the present, I don't think he'll be around as he fills a roster spot that a young player needs to develop.
It's a numbers game now, and what he can bring today is not necessarily what will drive the decision to keep him around.
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Do you think he will bring a 2nd round pick?
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04-14-2013, 03:55 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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This injury will likely mean he will remain with the Flames to start the next season  .
He is lost without Iginla, maybe he gets his head right but i would rather see him dealt though.
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04-14-2013, 03:58 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Tanguay has a role on the team as a powerplay specialist, at the very least. Whatever his failings in terms of hustle and grit, he's still the most skilled player on the team. It won't hurt younger skilled players to be on the receiving end of his passes as they learn to become NHL scorers.
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04-14-2013, 04:20 PM
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#36
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Some people actually think the Flames are going to buy out a 0.70+ point per game winger on a $3.5 million cap hit when they are currently flirting with next years cap floor?
Don't see it happening.
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If the logic is to bring in some more youth next year, particularly the one's that are playing now....where does he fit?
Sven(LW), Glencross (LW), Reinhart (LW)
Horak (RW), Stempniak (RW), Hudler (RW)
Backlund (C), Stajan (C)
This is without Cammaleri playing next year or a UFA signing or trade. I don't see where he fits, unless its the pressbox or the 4th line (which isn't happening). On top of that, if a top young centre is drafted this year, it wouldn't surprise me if he made the squad over Tanguay.
Based on the length of the contract and the need to make room for the youth, a buyout wouldn't surprise me in the least.
I do realize that his production would be greater than some of the players on the list above, but, as I stated earlier, a buyout such as this is for roster space..nothing more.
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04-14-2013, 04:42 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Reinhart is a Centre.
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04-14-2013, 05:11 PM
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#38
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by getbak
Reinhart is a Centre.
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doesn't matter..add cammaleri...the same number of players are still there.
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04-15-2013, 12:20 AM
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#39
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by MacFlame
Based on the length of the contract and the need to make room for the youth, a buyout wouldn't surprise me in the least.
I do realize that his production would be greater than some of the players on the list above, but, as I stated earlier, a buyout such as this is for roster space..nothing more.
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A buyout of Tanguay would be shocking. The Flames have never bought out a significant contract and have been hesitant to bury salary in the minors. Almost no chance they buy him out simply to open a roster spot.
If they need to open a roster spot they'll trade someone. I really can't see the Flames paying millions for Tanguay to play elsewhere. Don't see us buying out anybody.
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04-15-2013, 01:11 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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I could be wrong, but I believe if Tanguay ends the season injured, he can't be bought out, even if they wanted to.
That's why the Habs and Rangers were going to bubble-wrap Gomez and Redden until they were given a buyout window this year.
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