Outdoor game in LA?

[calumniate]

They'll have to use better technology than exists at the dome.

[Jordan!]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Does the downtown rink have a cooling system like an arena?

Yes, it has the piping underneath.

[landshark]

I think PHO would work better ice-wise. No humidity and almost zero chance of rain.

[goodyear]

Originally Posted by landshark

I think PHO would work better ice-wise. No humidity and almost zero chance of rain.

but also, no fans.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I have that card somewhere

[Methanolic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

how

Magnets! Duh,

[saskflames69]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I have two of these cards. Are they worth anything?

[Barnes]

No. The problem is everybody has two of them.

[saskflames69]

Originally Posted by Barnes

No. The problem is everybody has two of them.

That makes sense. I went through my collection and found 4 Luc Robitaille cards from the same set.

[Laner99]

If they can do an outdoor game in Vegas in 1991 they can pull off an outdoor game in LA in 2014. The ice technology has come a long ways since then so they could pull it off, as long as it's not raining that is.

[getbak]

It's my understanding that it never rains in Southern California.

[bucksmasher]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

Very few I would guess if any. None that I am aware of. Virtually any pollutant in water decreases the hydrogen bonding that makes water solid. Adding virtually anything to water lists the melting temperature (ie. Salt dissolves in water and boom, it needs to be even colder to freeze it)

That is kind of true for seawater. Pure H20 can reach -4 C before freezing because it has nothing to induce crystals. I would suspect crystal catalysts are added to freeze water at higher temps.

[Stay Golden]

Bettman should be under scrutiny should this artificial ice result in any various injuries that result in hitting a rut. The players would also be gassed playing with all the equipment under the hot sun.

If the weather went the other way and rained i wonder just how slushy the surface would get.

The whole idea seems desperate to me. Just keep it in cold climates Bettman.

[Mith]

Originally Posted by bucksmasher

That is kind of true for seawater. Pure H20 can reach -4 C before freezing because it has nothing to induce crystals. I would suspect crystal catalysts are added to freeze water at higher temps.

Difficult because pure water forms pretty good crystals, and anything that interrupts the network of H-Bonds deteriorates that system.

Frankly it's more likely to find some other chemical that freezes closer to 5-8 degrees C than you're likely to find some sort of additive to water to make it freeze higher.

[bucksmasher]

Oh I like chemistry too. So extremely pure water can be brought to lower temps than freezing. Experiments with substances that give cold water molecules a surface that induces crystallization cause instant freezing. These surfaces are nothing special, even ground glass works. The idea is that cold water has to expand the H bond network in order to crystallize which requires a slight amount of energy which can be overcome by these crystallization catalysts.

Now back to hockey?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by bucksmasher

Oh I like chemistry too. So extremely pure water can be brought to lower temps than freezing. Experiments with substances that give cold water molecules a surface that induces crystallization cause instant freezing. These surfaces are nothing special, even ground glass works. The idea is that cold water has to expand the H bond network in order to crystallize which requires a slight amount of energy which can be overcome by these crystallization catalysts.

Now back to hockey?

Haha. Can you picture ground glass in the ice at an nhl game? New skate blades every shift, and don't fall on the ice either

[badger89]

Originally Posted by bucksmasher

Oh I like chemistry too. So extremely pure water can be brought to lower temps than freezing. Experiments with substances that give cold water molecules a surface that induces crystallization cause instant freezing. These surfaces are nothing special, even ground glass works. The idea is that cold water has to expand the H bond network in order to crystallize which requires a slight amount of energy which can be overcome by these crystallization catalysts.

Now back to hockey?

Can you fix the ice in the dome? Seriously.

[Joe Nieuwendyk]

Originally Posted by getbak

It's my understanding that it never rains in Southern California.

It's my understanding that it pours, man, it pours