04-10-2013, 01:02 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by transplant99
I think this is Kypreos talking just to hear himself once again...absolutely no reason the Rangers would need to do this nevermind the amount of money it would cost them.
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Just like he said all along that Kipper was not going to waive his NTC?
He isn't the greatest, but he has had some things right and to be honest, I respect his views more than Dreger (who imo likes to talk to just hear himself)
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04-10-2013, 01:03 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Sather probably puts him on waivers prior to the buyout - Feaster decides he won't, nay can't take the chance Richards might sign somewhere else after clearing and will claim him and his absurd salary. Hope I'm wrong - but I do fully expect this to occur.
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04-10-2013, 01:04 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Here's hoping Feaster learned a lesson from this and the ROR offer sheet. Develop our own centers from now on please.
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04-10-2013, 01:04 PM
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
I think this is Kypreos talking just to hear himself once again...absolutely no reason the Rangers would need to do this nevermind the amount of money it would cost them.
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The rationale is that they can do it this summer with no future cap impact. They're probably concerned what his production will be a couple years from now, and at that point a buyout would kill them cap wise. It could be he's having an off season or it's a sign of declining production.
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04-10-2013, 01:04 PM
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#25
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Sakari
O'Reilly would have been great if we had actually got him. Without the waiver fiasco we'd all be happy with the move.
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No no we wouldn't be happy watching the Mackinnon play on the Avs for years to come.
Last edited by Tinordi; 04-10-2013 at 01:07 PM.
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04-10-2013, 01:09 PM
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Sector 2814
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Of course they are considering it, you should be considering every option for your next season. Whether or not they intend to is a new matter though..
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04-10-2013, 01:12 PM
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Franchise Player
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Maybe its just me, but I love watching old UFA sign huge contracts then fail to live up to them. You have no one but yourself to blame if you decide to start a bidding war over your services, then proceed to crap the bed. I hope fans start booing him every night. Richards acted like a ###### during the entire lockout and fans missed out on hockey action because of high paid players like him who were looking to cash in. Now he finally gets back on the ice and floats around all game.
And screw the NYR too. Richards, Redden, Gomez, Drury, Holik. The list goes on of underachieving players who were signed by Sather and failed to live up to their end of the bargain.
Having said that, I hope the Rangers keep Richards for the remainder of that contract. It was a dumb contract to begin with.
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04-10-2013, 01:14 PM
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#28
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
No no we wouldn't be happy watching the Mackinnon play on the Avs for years to come.
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Could you imagine? Jones or Mackinnon plus a 3rd for an overpaid 2nd line centre? And I realize that our pick wasn't a top 5 then, but wasn't far off. Most people knew what was going to happen.
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04-10-2013, 01:17 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I woudn't be opposed to Feaster signing Richards to a 2 or 3 year max deal at a reasonable price. You need some NHLers to play on your team while you rebuild. He could be a mentor to the younger players, and then flipped for picks at the trade deadline. Of course, why Richards would even consider signing a short term deal in Calgary is another story. But if he was willing to, I'd hope we explore the possiblity.
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04-10-2013, 01:17 PM
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That would be like winning the lottery for Richards. Get paid out on that huge contract and become a UFA so he can sign another big contract. Crazy if it happens.
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04-10-2013, 01:20 PM
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#31
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Could you imagine? Jones or Mackinnon plus a 3rd for an overpaid 2nd line centre? And I realize that our pick wasn't a top 5 then, but wasn't far off. Most people knew what was going to happen.
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Yes it was a near disaster, an offense most foul. Better men have been fired for less.
It's shocking how low to the trees this organization was flying during that week. Stunning the absolute bankruptcy of good decision making that was happening.
That this team could have fundamentally misjudged where this team was at to not only miss the technicalities but to miss the broader context.
I mean there's never clearer a case for a full scale purge of everyone in the hockey ops department.
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04-10-2013, 01:21 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
That would be like winning the lottery for Richards. Get paid out on that huge contract and become a UFA so he can sign another big contract. Crazy if it happens.
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Yeah, it's weird that all these guys get rewarded for sucking hard. There should be some monetary consequences for these players... perhaps a percentage of the buyout money should be used to cover their next contract or something.
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04-10-2013, 01:22 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Yes it was a near disaster, an offense most foul. Better men have been fired for less.
It's shocking how low to the trees this organization was flying during that week. Stunning the absolute bankruptcy of good decision making that was happening.
That this team could have fundamentally misjudged where this team was at to not only miss the technicalities but to miss the broader context.
I mean there's never clearer a case for a full scale purge of everyone in the hockey ops department.
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Good lord are you ever a blow hard.
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04-10-2013, 01:24 PM
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#34
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Good lord are you ever a blow hard.
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Feel free to debate the content of my post of why you think the ROR debacle along with the dodged bullet that was the Richards non-signed were not huge potential setbacks for this organization and why people shouldn't be held accountable for them.
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04-10-2013, 01:24 PM
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Not the 1 millionth post winnar
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Los Angeles
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Lets say we had successfully signed Richards. And lets say Colorado had elected not to match our offer sheet (and the waiver thing didn't apply). And both players performed the same for us that they did for their current teams.
We would have spent 11.6 million dollars (Capgeek) for 10 goals.
Leaving us only 22 goals behind the opposition in differential!
YAY!
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04-10-2013, 01:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Good lord are you ever a blow hard.
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maybe but he isn't wrong.
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04-10-2013, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Captain Overrated! Thank god Richards chose NY over us.
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04-10-2013, 01:31 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Tinordi
Feel free to debate the content of my post of why you think the ROR debacle along with the dodged bullet that was the Richards non-signed were not huge potential setbacks for this organization and why people shouldn't be held accountable for them.
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Nothing to debate, as I don't entirely disagree with you.
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04-10-2013, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Nothing to debate, as I don't entirely disagree with you.
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Besides being a blowhard, my broader point is that the same people are now running the rebuild. What confidence do you have in a group of people that would have eviscerated the future prospects of this team to eek into 8th spot to build this team into a contender?
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04-10-2013, 01:34 PM
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#40
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philtopia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by atb
Was listening to hockey central and Kypreos (who probably is still somewhat connected in NY) mentioned the Rangers are considering buying out Richards this summer.
Podcast link, it's about 33-34min in: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/fan59...-8--Monday.mp3
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He probably will still land here if the Rangers buy him out.
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