Offseason Changes - What will they look like for Calgary?

[#-3]

There are allot of free agent goaltenders available this summer.

Backstrom
Smith
Emery
Thomas
Howard
Mason
Ellis
LaBarbera
McDonald
Theodore
Budaj
Montoya

and more.

If the Flames are without Kipper and content to go with Ramo, the i would be shocked if they don't grab one of these guys as a backup who can play 30ish games.

I would also be shocked if they give away young assets for a guy like Bernier, unless something happens to make them loss all faith in Ramo.

I also hope they have learned something from this season and just go after the best face-off man in free agentcy, then fit him into the line up.

And they will do something about Defence this off season weather it is free agents or trade. But there is no way Breen & Cundri are on the opening day roster, or we will be in 30th next year.

[Dorkmaster]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

You'd think after recently seeing top prospects like Joe Morrow and Filip Forsberg moved for veteran players, that online hockey gurus would stop making comments like this.

I don't believe Couturier is untouchable on a team like the Flyers. They have a need to improve their defence, but would need to shed salary to do so. They have incredible depth at Center, and Couturier is not a key contributor in their lineup.

I simply offered up a proposal that I think would fit the needs of both teams.

Besides, it's called fantasy for a reason.

While I think your trade is complete garbage (Not sure if Coburn straight across for Gio would even get accepted) I think Couturier might be dangled for the right return. Not sure if Gio would do it though, maybe Gio + Pits 1st give or take. Philly seems high on Laughton and I'm sure Couturier would be available if they're getting a top 2 dman back.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Except Coburn is about as good as Gio so your proposal was basically Butler and a pick for Couturier. That is why people think it was a bad proposal.

[bax]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

You'd think after recently seeing top prospects like Joe Morrow and Filip Forsberg moved for veteran players, that online hockey gurus (me included) should stop making comments like this.

I don't believe Couturier is untouchable on a team like the Flyers. They have a need to improve their defence, but would need to shed salary to do so. They have incredible depth at Center, and Couturier is not a key contributor in their lineup.

I simply offered up a proposal that I think would fit the needs of both teams.

Besides, it's called fantasy for a reason.

They aren't going to trade Couts for Gio when they wouldn't include him in a package for Weber

[ComixZone]

"IF" the Flames decide to get right back at it, and attempt to make it a 1 year turn around...

Flames end up drafting:

3rd Overall (CGY): Nate Mackinnon (C)
16th Overall (STL): JT Compher (C)
20th Overall (PIT): Curtis Lazar (C)

Draft day trade:
To DAL: Matt Stajan, 3rd in '13
To CGY: Alex Goligoski

RFA:
TJ Brodie (4 years, 3M per)
Mikael Backlund (3 years, 2M per)
Chris Butler (1 year, 1.3M per)
Karri Ramo (2 years, 1.75M per)

UFA:
Brian McGrattan (2 years, 575K per)
Ray Emery (2 years, 3.3M per)
Stephen Weiss (4 years, 5.5M per)
Nathan Horton (5 years, 5.5M per)
Matt Gilroy (1 year, 900K per)

Retirement: Miikka Kiprusoff

FORWARDS
Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m) / Stephen Weiss ($5.500m) / Nathan Horton ($5.500m)
Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Nathan Mackinnon ($3.225m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
Alex Tanguay ($3.500m) / Mikael Backlund ($2.000m) / Jiri Hudler ($4.000m)
Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Max Reinhart ($0.870m) / Tim Jackman ($0.613m)
Brian McGrattan ($0.575m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / Alex Goligoski ($4.600m)
T.J. Brodie ($3.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
Matt Gilroy ($0.900m) / Cory Sarich ($2.000m)
Chris Butler ($1.300m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ray Emery ($3.300m)
Karri Ramo ($1.750m)

[Savvy27]

Draft: Aleksander Barkov, Frederick Gauthier, Robert Hagg

Don't Re-Sign:
Anton Babchuk
Roman Cervenka
Joey Macdonald
Steve Begin
Michael Testwuide
Krys Kolanos
Bryan Cameron
Leland Irving
Gaelen Patterson
Danny Taylor

Sign RFAs:
Greg Nemisz - 1 year, ($600 000) - 2 way
Akim Aliu - 1 year, ($650 000) - 2 way
Carter Bancks - 1 year, $1.15 million (.575/year) - 2 way
T.J. Brodie - 3 years, $9 million (3.00/year) - 1 way
Chris Butler - 1 years, $1.5 million (1.5/year) - 1 way
Mikael Backlund - 2 years, $4.5 million (2.25/year) 1-way
Lance Bouma - 2 years, $1.5 million (0.750/year) 1-way
Mark Cundari - 2 years, $1.2 million (0.600/year) 2-way
Paul Byron - 1 year, $750k (0.75/year) 2-way
Chris Breen - 2 years, $1.5 million (0.75/year) 2-way
Ben Walter - 2 years, $1.2 million (.60/year) 2-way
Brady Lamb - 1 year, $700k (.700/year) 2-way
Brett Carson - 1 year, $650k (.650/year) 2-way

Sign UFAs:
Brian McGrattan - 1 year, $900k (.900/year) - 1 way
Karri Ramo - 2 years, $4 mil (2.00/year) - 1 way
Robyn Regehr - 3 years, $10.5 million (3.50/year) - 1 way
Nathan Horton - 2 years, $12 million (6.0/year) - 1 way

Trades:
Tanguay to Detroit Red Wings for Mattais Backman + 2014 3rd
Jackman to San Jose Sharks for 2014 6th
Stempniak to Columbus for 2014 2nd

Line-up:
Cammalleri - Backlund - Horton
Baertschi - Barkov - Hudler
Glencross - Stajan - Horak
Bouma - Reinhart - McGrattan
Byron

Giordano - Brodie
Regehr - Wideman
Breen - Butler
Sarich

Kiprusoff
Ramo

Notes: Horton is an overpayment, but since I don't expect us to be very competitive we can try to pay him like a first line forward so that his line can take on the top defensive pairings of other teams and let our younger guys develop a little more comfortably.

Trades are tough, so don't put much stock into the suggested returns. Those are some of the guys that I would try to trade though.

Regehr's best days are behind him, but our defence is just so soft. He's only 32, but I doubt LA will re-sign him and he didn't leave on bad terms. We need leadership and it seems that he is the type of guy who tries to bring defensive accountability to teammates.

If Kipper retires, I would give the two Euro goalies a shot and keep Danny Taylor on in the AHL.

[kyuss275]

I wont say what i want to happen but what i think will happen:

Feaster keeps his job

Feaster finds out quickly at the draft, that he is stuck with all the players he thought he might be able to trade. ie, Cammi, Stajan, Tangs

Feaster trades Pitt 1st rounder and a 3rd in 2014 for rfa Karl Alzner

Drafts Mackinnon and Erne

Makes offer sheet for Clutterbuck, gets denied.

Signs a UFA gritty 3rd line player and lets Cervenka go back home.

re-signs McGrattan

Sticks with Ramo and Berra in goal

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Draft day trade:
To DAL: Matt Stajan, 3rd in '13
To CGY: Alex Goligoski

So let me understand this. The Stars gave up James Neil to get Goligoski and they are going to flip him for Stajan?

[tostietoes]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I wont say what i want to happen but what i think will happen:

Feaster keeps his job

Feaster finds out quickly at the draft, that he is stuck with all the players he thought he might be able to trade. ie, Cammi, Stajan, Tangs

Feaster trades Pitt 1st rounder and a 3rd in 2014 for rfa Karl Alzner

Drafts Mackinnon and Erne

Makes offer sheet for Clutterbuck, gets denied.

Signs a UFA gritty 3rd line player and lets Cervenka go back home.

re-signs McGrattan

Sticks with Ramo and Berra in goal

If you could get Karl Alzner I would be so happy one of my favorite defencemen

[Northendzone]

^ a first and a third for alzner (as much as i like the guy) maybe if we are acquiring him at the trade deadline and he is the final piece of the puzzle.....

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

2013-2014 NHL Roster:

Tanguay - Backlund - Hudler
Glencross - Couturier - Stempniak
Baertschi - Stajan - Horak
Byron - Bouma - McGrattan

Coburn - Wideman
Brodie - Smith
Breen - Cundari

Ramo
Berra

Your AHL team next year could consist of guys like MacKinnon, Ristolainen, Zykov, Wotherspoon, Brossoit, with Gaudreau and Jankowski a few years down the road.

Couturier is the #2 centre because of ????? scoring potential?

Flyers sure would like him to play better than he has done this year.


36 games 3 goals 12 pts and -12.... almost the same line as Cervenka

Right now Stajan is a better NHL player than him.

Rienhart... from one NHL game... seems to be physically strong... might be an equivalent to Couturier if given a chance.

Couturier has not stepped up and developed anywhere what he was expected to.

Right now he is progressing slower than Backlund was 2 years ago


Not only Flames can't miss prospects sometimes don't pan out.

[ricardodw]

Feasters gets his pick of UFA's If there is a UFA that he wants, the Flames will have the $ and Cap space to sign him

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Feasters gets his pick of UFA's If there is a UFA that he wants, the Flames will have the $ and Cap space to sign him

That's not a good thing.

[Reign of Fire]

Originally Posted by nik-

Apparently Feaster has pictures of Holmgren murdering a child with a pick axe?

Then Feaster can write a blog about it, because the number 1 change that should happen this offseason is with the management

[Tinordi]

I'm really wondering whether some posters have actually digested the lessons of the past 4 seasons. Far from actually sobering up and saying "gee, that strategy failed" we have many people more than willing to double down again. What the heck do you need, a slap in the face? The cold bucket of reality dumped all over you certainly wasn't enough.

Signing UFAs is the key to the Flames returning to a Stanley Cup contender? What the heck would lead anyone to make that conclusion?

[calgary2220]

Anyone who doesn't have Brodie on the top pairing needs to lay off the glue. And if
Gio keeps playing the way he has, he may find himself in the A.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

That's not a good thing.

Clowe McKinnon , Clarkson /Horton would be a reasonable #1 line
second line - Glencross, Backlund, cammalerri

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Clowe McKinnon , Clarkson /Horton would be a reasonable #1 line
second line - Glencross, Backlund, cammalerri

To get Horton and Clowe it would cost an extra year of term and an extra $1million a year. That would make those contracts impossible to move going forward. Flames can not afford to be stuck with those kind of contracts when they have no idea what kind of team they are going to have in 2-3 years.

Plus Clowe is not a first line guy. Clowe is a great 3rd liner.

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

2013-2014 NHL Roster:

Tanguay - Backlund - Hudler
Glencross - Couturier - Stempniak
Baertschi - Stajan - Horak
Byron - Bouma - McGrattan

Coburn - Wideman
Brodie - Smith
Breen - Cundari

Ramo
Berra

I take it your goal for this lineup is to guarantee a 30th place finish next year.

[Phanuthier]

It will be interesting to see which vet's ask for a trade, rather then spend the last few years of their NHL careers lost in the woods. I could actually see it from Tanguay or Wideman.

Of the Flames leftover, I can see Cammalleri embracing the "best player" tag and stay... I don't think he'll ask for a trade.

Also, I know this won't be popular, but I'd bring back Young-Guns alumni Steve Begin. On a sucky team, he's kind of fun to watch.