04-03-2013, 02:36 PM
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Franchise Player
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Giordano's play over the last year shouldn't warrant him being labelled untouchable. With Bouwmeester gone he's needed. And if he bounces back, great. But another year of his subpar play given the expectations we have of him and he should be shopped.
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04-03-2013, 02:39 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
So now we are worried about player's feelings? But when Kipper wants to stay to be with his family, we bag on him for it? This place makes no sense.
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I agree with ya..No one will ever be happy
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04-03-2013, 02:40 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Surprise Backlund wasn't acknowledged if Gio was.
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Wish he had been. I'm not an unquestioning believer in Corsi stats, but check out these numbers for Calgary this year.
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04-03-2013, 02:40 PM
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#24
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First Line Centre
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We hear statements regarding who is untouchable from a lot of GMs around trade deadline, but now we are going to crucify Feaster for that. If he had stated "there are no untouchables" the same people would be falling over themselves to declare he has just jeopardized Baertschi's development by destroying his confidence.
Is it possible to actually resist these urges to make mountain out of molehills regarding this guy? Serious question: do you enjoy making the comments you do? I would have a hard time staying on this band wagon if it truly made me this miserable, so honestly, what makes you stick around?
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04-03-2013, 02:41 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Mike F
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Hopefully there are a few outliers in those statistics / guys that can turn it around next year (Baertschi)
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04-03-2013, 02:41 PM
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#26
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the cut, in the cut
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
So now we are worried about player's feelings? But when Kipper wants to stay to be with his family, we bag on him for it? This place makes no sense.
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Welcome, to Calgary Puck.
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04-03-2013, 02:42 PM
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#27
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: right behind you
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So is post apex player the new intellectually honest?
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04-03-2013, 02:44 PM
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#28
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Lifetime Suspension
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The problem isn't that it was true, it's that it shouldn't have been said.
Actually the problem is sort of that it was true, given that Glencross could have fetched a shiny new 1st rounder, potentially.
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04-03-2013, 02:44 PM
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#29
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GOAT!
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This wasn't an Official List of People We're Not Trading.
Someone just asked if there was a list, and Feaster said there wasn't - but alluded to young players and/or good contracts (such as Baertschi, Brodie, Glencross and Giordano) as being examples of players we wanted to keep. I think this thread is a little misleading, to be honest.
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04-03-2013, 02:50 PM
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#30
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Guaranteed the long term vets were approached about the possibility of a trade already. IE Tanguay and Cammalleri already knew there was a possibility they would be traded. No one else on the team has earned "untouchable" status, and they should be aware of that already.
No feelings should be hurt.
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04-03-2013, 03:10 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Reign of Fire
What is the point of announcing this? Must make the rest of the guys in the locker room feel great about themselves.
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Yeah, that's what CalPuck's for! 
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04-03-2013, 03:11 PM
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#32
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Your Mother's Place.
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Originally Posted by LiquidX
I kind of feel as though glencross is being overvalued a bit by this forum (and the flames). Don't get me wrong, he's a good player, and has a skill set and contract value that every team would like to have - but I still feel as though he's a 3rd line winger with inconsistencies playing in a 2nd line role.
That being said, if he were to be moved, he would leave a big hole (but this team is already holier than the pope).
In the end, keeping him doesn't hurt the team going forward - but I think if you could capitalize on his (perhaps overstated) value, then you do it - particularly when your team is in the position the flames are.
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Wow... I can't even tell you how much I agree with this. Sure Glencross is decent at a decent price and that is the kind of player that you need to fill out your roster with but UNTOUCHABLE?? Are you kidding me? Curtis Freaking Glencross is UNTOUCHABLE?
These are the type of players that are not usually hard to find in the 'half-price' bin. This type of asset management is why the Flames can't even do a rebuild properly and they will be wallowing near the bottom of the league for years. If someone is willing to offer you anything for Curtis Freaking Glencross you listen to the offer.
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04-03-2013, 03:14 PM
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#33
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Cap Hell
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Originally Posted by vanisleflamesfan
Wow... I can't even tell you how much I agree with this. Sure Glencross is decent at a decent price and that is the kind of player that you need to fill out your roster with but UNTOUCHABLE?? Are you kidding me? Curtis Freaking Glencross is UNTOUCHABLE?
These are the type of players that are not usually hard to find in the 'half-price' bin. This type of asset management is why the Flames can't even do a rebuild properly and they will be wallowing near the bottom of the league for years. If someone is willing to offer you anything for Curtis Freaking Glencross you listen to the offer.
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+1 Out of Thanks.
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04-03-2013, 03:16 PM
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#34
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I believe in the Jays.
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Feaster... you forgot Backlund on your list. Glad Glencross is sticking around... great value for money.
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04-03-2013, 03:20 PM
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#35
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by mustache ride
So is post apex player the new intellectually honest?
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We've got a post-apex General Manager, unfortunately. "Best" days in Tampa.
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04-03-2013, 03:24 PM
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#36
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Toronto
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People relax, nobody is untouchable. It's just a ploy to drive up the price in the future, if a team were to inquire about them.
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04-03-2013, 05:04 PM
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Had an idea!
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Sounds like a decent enough core to start off with. I suspect the list grows the next few years.
And honestly, why should there be other players on there? Have they played like they deserve to stick around?
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04-03-2013, 05:10 PM
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#38
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Lifetime Suspension
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Weird that there were any untouchables. I would have said there were no untouchables. A little fear of God is always healthy.
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04-03-2013, 05:14 PM
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#39
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MissTeeks
So now we are worried about player's feelings? But when Kipper wants to stay to be with his family, we bag on him for it? This place makes no sense.
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This place never makes sense to me. Some of the comments just blow me away and make me wonder what's going on in the minds of some people here.
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04-03-2013, 05:15 PM
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#40
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by LiquidX
I kind of feel as though glencross is being overvalued a bit by this forum (and the flames). Don't get me wrong, he's a good player, and has a skill set and contract value that every team would like to have - but I still feel as though he's a 3rd line winger with inconsistencies playing in a 2nd line role.
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Glencross' current scoring pace is 36 goals over 82 games.
If you feel that is a third liner, then the problem isn't Glencross, but your own faulty opinion of what a third or second line player is.
Or to put it another way: If your viewpoint was realistic enough to be commonly held by actual general managers, then the Flames would be absolutely stupid to move him, since they could never hope to get back in a trade the value they get out of him as a player under those contract terms.
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