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Old 04-03-2013, 11:34 AM   #21
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seriously who is this sure loss fella?
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:35 AM   #22
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I havent spent much time looking at Pitts roster, but shouldn't they be stocking up on defense, not forward?

I guess when you have the puck 90 percent of the time it doesn't matter. But it seems they could use help on defense to help cover the inconsistent goaltending.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:36 AM   #23
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Man, all the Penguins fans are going to be so upset if they miss the Cup this year.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:43 AM   #24
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Really good trade for Pens.

Reallllllllly good trade in my opinion.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:46 AM   #25
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James Mirtle ‏@mirtle 33s 'Canes get a conditional 2013 sixth or seventh round draft pick from Pens for Jokinen.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:48 AM   #26
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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 29s
If Jokinen plays 25 per cent of PIT 2013 playoff games AND PIT goes to Cup final, CAR gets 7th round pick from PIT

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If Jokinen plays 50 per cent of PIT 2013 playoff games AND PIT wins the CUP, CAR gets a 6th round pick from PI
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:49 AM   #27
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Decent depth pickup for cheap. Good move for PIT, especially if Carolina retained some salary.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:50 AM   #28
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Sure is a sellers market when a former 40 point guy could have been had for free on waivers and needed salary eaten to be moved........media B.S.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:50 AM   #29
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So basically Carolina gets nothing unless Pittsburgh reaches the final and Carolina is taking on part of the cap hit?

They really wanted to get rid of the guy.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:50 AM   #30
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Pens are stocking up I still see a Dman headed that way in the next hour.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:51 AM   #31
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Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 29s
If Jokinen plays 25 per cent of PIT 2013 playoff games AND PIT goes to Cup final, CAR gets 7th round pick from PIT

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 1m
If Jokinen plays 50 per cent of PIT 2013 playoff games AND PIT wins the CUP, CAR gets a 6th round pick from PI
Those conditions are hilarious. I think these guys are bored.
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #32
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So basically Carolina gets nothing unless Pittsburgh reaches the final and Carolina is taking on part of the cap hit?

They really wanted to get rid of the guy.
They needed to with all the money tied up in Staal, Staal, Semin, Ward
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:53 AM   #33
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Nice pickup for my beloved Pens.

As i stated in the Iggy's first goal thread, TK on the 1st line is pretty bad, but the right move to let the 2nd / 3rd line gel. Jokinen is significant upgrade as a stop-gap.

In addition, he's a pretty big upgrade over Glass on the 4th line and a good face-off guy. In 09' run they double shifted Crosby / Geno a lot on 4th line with Satan while dressing 7 D to create an additional threat. I don't see them dressing 7 d, but I think you will see Crosby / Geno double shift on a line with TK / Jokinen which could make even the 4th line a problem for teams
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:54 AM   #34
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How does Pittsburgh come up with all this cap space? How do they convince Carolina to cover some of Jokinen's contract? Cheaters!
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How does Pittsburgh come up with all this cap space? How do they convince Carolina to cover some of Jokinen's contract? Cheaters!
Jedi mind tricks.
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How does Pittsburgh come up with all this cap space? How do they convince Carolina to cover some of Jokinen's contract? Cheaters!
First year they've gone into season with some cap space because of trading Staal / Michalek and then missing out on Parise (might have been a blessing in disguise). In addition, we've been lucky enough to have some guys take lower than market price to stay aboard which has been quite helpful . They're probably going to lose some role players next year though, which I guess might be motivation behind the "f it let's win it all now" mentality Shero seems to be having.

After the 2014/15 season things may get rough with Malkin, Letang, Sutter, Orpik, Kunitz, Niskanen, Despres all becoming free agents.. They obviously will have some decisions to make then...

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First year they've gone into season with some cap space because of trading Staal / Michalek and then missing out on Parise (might have been a blessing in disguise). In addition, we've been lucky enough to have some guys take lower than market price to stay aboard which has been quite helpful . They're probably going to lose some role players next year though, which I guess might be motivation behind the "f it let's win it all now" mentality Shero seems to be having.
I haven't once looked at their cap situation but just find it remarkable that they have been able to add all these guys and still have been able to remain under the cap. Shero is a genius - but, like you said, it's cup or bust this year for them.
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Totally.. Malkin, Crosby, Iginla, Morrow, Neal, Kunitz, Dupuis, Jokinen, Sutter, etc.. Holy #### that lineup is stacked.. Then you add in potential norris d-man Letang to that, holy ####.
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I haven't once looked at their cap situation but just find it remarkable that they have been able to add all these guys and still have been able to remain under the cap. Shero is a genius - but, like you said, it's cup or bust this year for them.
Prorated salaries too on all these rentals

Iggy, Morrow, Jussi, Murray, Eaton's real cap hit = 17.325 mill. Because have their prorated salary.... They have only accounted 5.712 mill against the cap
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Totally.. Malkin, Crosby, Iginla, Morrow, Neal, Kunitz, Dupuis, Jokinen, Sutter, etc.. Holy #### that lineup is stacked.. Then you add in potential norris d-man Letang to that, holy ####.
Its almost so good its making me really nervous about a potential epic 1st round melt down lol
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