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moon · 03-09-2013, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

You missed my point.

We have no idea whether or not they are being honest with themselves in assessing the team. All we see is what is said to the media.

And what they do in terms of player moves.

bubbsy · 03-09-2013, 11:35 PM

I have seen a lack of intellectual honesty in how management has handled this roster for 3 years now.

The statements made during hnic lead me to believe that we might be headed to another year of the same.

I don't care what they "say" I care about the actions and results.

The flames are easily considered bottom 5 dumbest/worst managed teams in the business.

zamler · 03-09-2013, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by stignasty

I hate your avatar. I thought that when Oilers fans did it over the past couple of seasons. Go cheer for another team already.

No. Hate more maybe you'll feel better. I'll change it back when the Flames win again, I'm not a happy camper.

Skootenbeeten · 03-09-2013, 11:36 PM

I see the flames hovering right around .500 all season. Just good enough to give hope and just bad enough to miss the playoffs. This is the worst possible outcome, holding onto players with declining value and not getting high picks.

Flash Walken · 03-09-2013, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The only question that matters at this point: How stubborn is Murray Edwards?

Apparently very.

I am excited for Jay Feaster to hire an assistant GM. Of course, King will do the interview because Jay will be so busy, but it will be a single candidate interview and Jay will have the complete confidence of ownership.

nik- · 03-09-2013, 11:42 PM

I don't think Murray Edwards is stubborn, I just thing he's a guy that runs a pretty major company and has a lot of trust in Ken King to do what he was hired for. I think Ken King is the one who's stubborn because his priority is maximizing the dollars.

Alberta_Beef · 03-09-2013, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

And what they do in terms of player moves.

Not really. They have added scouts and invested more in scouting systems as well. If I looked at the combination of everything I would say they are trying to fight for the playoffs while rebuilding. Not selling all their assets like a bunch of losers doesn't tell you anything except they have fight in them.

But who am I to be realistic.

moon · 03-09-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Not really. They have added scouts and invested more in scouting systems as well. If I looked at the combination of everything I would say they are trying to fight for the playoffs while rebuilding. Not selling all their assets like a bunch of losers doesn't tell you anything except they have fight in them.

But who am I to be realistic.

Continuing to say that the answers are in the room when the team repeatedly shows that it isn't good enough to make the play-offs isn't being honest.

Adding scouts and investing more in scouting systems has nothing to do with intellectual honesty and hardly shows anything other than they are willing to spend cash.

Selling assets now makes them losers? In what world?

But who I am to be realistic.

Erick Estrada · 03-09-2013, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by moon

Continuing to say that the answers are in the room when the team repeatedly shows that it isn't good enough to make the play-offs isn't being honest.

You hit the nail on the head here with probably the best, most truthful post of the year. I don't care what anyone says moon. You ain't so bad.

CliffFletcher · 03-09-2013, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Not really. They have added scouts and invested more in scouting systems as well. If I looked at the combination of everything I would say they are trying to fight for the playoffs while rebuilding. Not selling all their assets like a bunch of losers doesn't tell you anything except they have fight in them.

No, it shows they don't understand how asset management works in a professional sports league with a draft and a salary cap.

Cleveland Steam Whistle · 03-10-2013, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stignasty

I hate your avatar. I thought that when Oilers fans did it over the past couple of seasons. Go cheer for another team already.

I hate your avatar because it shows how much you live in the past. Go get a time machine so you can actually live past.

Does that make sense?

Hockey_Ninja · 03-10-2013, 12:06 AM

I hope Feaster enjoys being a mediocre team ridding on the back of two old stars until they retire.

Flamenfame · 03-10-2013, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

I hope Feaster enjoys being a mediocre team ridding on the back of two old stars until they retire.

Yea its getting past the point of caring for me . This team is going nowhere again this season .

T@T · 03-10-2013, 12:10 AM

Repeat after me..."blowing it up" doesn't guarantee anything but a fun draft day,in most cases it means complete suckage for many many years (look up north)

I continue to believe this team is 2-3 pieces from being a solid team again.

Feaster gets paid 900k to get those pieces.. if he can't then he should retire.

Hockey_Ninja · 03-10-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Flamenfame

Yea its getting past the point of caring for me . This team is going nowhere again this season .

It makes me think that they are going to let Iginla walk away for nothing during the summer. Letting him go and getting nothing in return is wost case scenario for this franchise. Same thing goes for Kipper. I'm not sipping the Kool-Aid anymore.

afc wimbledon · 03-10-2013, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by T@T

Repeat after me..."blowing it up" doesn't guarantee anything but a fun draft day,in most cases it means complete suckage for many many years (look up north)

I continue to believe this team is 2-3 pieces from being a solid team again.

Feaster gets paid 900k to get those pieces.. if he can't then he should retire.

If the 2 to 3 pieces are a league top 5 defenceman, goalie (under 28) and center I agree.

Flash Walken · 03-10-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

It makes me think that they are going to let Iginla walk away for nothing during the summer. Letting him go and getting nothing in return is wost case scenario for this franchise. Same thing goes for Kipper. I'm not sipping the Kool-Aid anymore.

I used to be of that belief.

I now believe the worse case scenario is the Flames re-sign him.

Joborule · 03-10-2013, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by T@T

Repeat after me..."blowing it up" doesn't guarantee anything but a fun draft day,in most cases it means complete suckage for many many years (look up north)

I continue to believe this team is 2-3 pieces from being a solid team again.

Feaster gets paid 900k to get those pieces.. if he can't then he should retire.

Alright, so how do you get those 2-3 pieces without "blowing it up"? I'm sure Feaster is all ears.

Flash Walken · 03-10-2013, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joborule

Alright, so how do you get those 2-3 pieces without "blowing it up"? I'm sure Feaster is all ears.

Top 10 picks.

GGG · 03-10-2013, 12:20 AM

I think the last two years were handled correctly. A tandom likeIggy and Kipper dont come around that often so while there was a reasonable chance of making the playoffs with them you kept going for it. This year we clearly dont have a chance and oneof the reasons we arent close is that we are trying to rebuild. This years team would have been better with Joki in the line up. Instead we bought some lottery tickets with Cervenka and gave backlund a bigger role.

So i think it is incorrect to say we arent rebuilding. The good news is that if we keep this play up we should be out of it by deadline day. Then it is timeto move people.