02-24-2013, 11:53 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Moscow, ID
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He's not NHL ready. Aliu was effective last night because he had no concern for his own safety. So this shouldn't be considered bad luck, but the expected outcome.
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02-24-2013, 11:54 AM
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Arguing over which marginal/fringe player is more marginal/fringe is pretty comical.
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02-24-2013, 11:55 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner
Arguing over which marginal/fringe player is more marginal/fringe is pretty comical.
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Really the argument is whether or not Begin is valuable to this team or not right now. He has shown many reasons to suggest that he is in fact valuable to this team right now. Until there is a much better option available Steve will continue to contribute solid minutes to this team most nights which I will be happy to see.
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02-24-2013, 11:58 AM
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#24
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
Really the argument is whether or not Begin is valuable to this team or not right now. He has shown many reasons to suggest that he is in fact valuable to this team right now. Until there is a much better option available Steve will continue to contribute solid minutes to this team most nights which I will be happy to see.
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02-24-2013, 12:01 PM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
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Yup...hard to believe that anyone can be unhappy with Begin at his price and what he brings to a team completely void of his element.
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02-24-2013, 12:05 PM
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#26
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by Heavy Jack
So your answer to our toughness problem is to bring in a guy who is 5'11 195lbs, who played in 36 games/18 games in the last 2 seasons and has only 16 pims and 2 assists to show for it while being a -10 in that time. There's a reason he's still in Albany, on his two-way contract. I'm taking Begin and his experience in an agitator/energy role over a marginal, fringe player at best who just dressed from 1 playoff game in NJ last year.
Edit: One-way contract.
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That is a lot more than Begin has done over the past two seasons.
Not that I think that Sesito is the answer but it seems like odd things to harp on considering what Begin has (more appropirately hasn't) done lately.
Begin hasn't seemed to lose us any games this year which is good but he offers 0 to the team and is 35 so it seems odd to have him in the line-up.
If he brought energy, toughness, grit etc. maybe then you could see it. But he did always seem like a hardworker on and off the ice so maybe they like him there in practice working his tail off. It isn't going to make or break the Flames but you would think there could be someone else younger that could give us 8 minutes of nothing like Begin.
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02-24-2013, 03:12 PM
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#27
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Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder
He's not NHL ready. Aliu was effective last night because he had no concern for his own safety. So this shouldn't be considered bad luck, but the expected outcome.
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He reminds me a lot of Raffi Torres in that aspect of his play. I think if he's ever an NHLer, we'll have to deal with him being injury prone.
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02-24-2013, 03:14 PM
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Ass Handler
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Okotoks, AB
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Originally Posted by Sakari
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You just gotta laugh.
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02-24-2013, 03:36 PM
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#29
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Powerplay Quarterback
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This team needs Tom kostopoulos.
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02-25-2013, 02:40 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: BH dungeon
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Bring up our other agitator Michael Ferland
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02-25-2013, 02:53 PM
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#31
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Originally Posted by Wronskian
Bring up our other agitator Michael Ferland
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I don't think it is possible with Ferland being in the WHL again. I could be wrong.
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02-25-2013, 02:59 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Saddledome, Calgary
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Originally Posted by you got PHANUEFED
This team needs Tom kostopoulos.
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Where is Kostopolous these days? Sorry but I totally lost track of him
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02-25-2013, 03:22 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Central CA
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Originally Posted by Envitro
Where is Kostopolous these days? Sorry but I totally lost track of him
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Wilkes-Barre Scranton last I heard, but that was a PTO I think. Not sure if it expired or they kept him on.
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02-25-2013, 04:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Are we thinking of Tom Sestito - who's much bigger and plays for the Flyers?
Last edited by PeteMoss; 02-25-2013 at 04:46 PM.
Reason: Wrong quote
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02-25-2013, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Are we thinking of Tom Sestito - who's much bigger and plays for the Flyers?
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I wasn't but maybe the original poster was.
I was just responding about Begin not Sestito.
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02-25-2013, 04:56 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Tim Sestito is basically a young Steve Begin... and he has no upside. At least the bigger Sestito would add size. If your choice is between Begin and Tim Sestito.. might as well stick with the guy you know assuming he's good in the room, etc.
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02-25-2013, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Tim Sestito is basically a young Steve Begin... and he has no upside. At least the bigger Sestito would add size. If your choice is between Begin and Tim Sestito.. might as well stick with the guy you know assuming he's good in the room, etc.
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My choice would be neither.
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02-25-2013, 10:43 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: The toilet of Alberta : Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by moon
That is a lot more than Begin has done over the past two seasons.
Not that I think that Sesito is the answer but it seems like odd things to harp on considering what Begin has (more appropirately hasn't) done lately.
Begin hasn't seemed to lose us any games this year which is good but he offers 0 to the team and is 35 so it seems odd to have him in the line-up.
If he brought energy, toughness, grit etc. maybe then you could see it. But he did always seem like a hardworker on and off the ice so maybe they like him there in practice working his tail off. It isn't going to make or break the Flames but you would think there could be someone else younger that could give us 8 minutes of nothing like Begin.
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Perhaps you missed the GWG he had against Dallas that week? That's hardly nothing. And before you say it was just one game, he is a 4th line checker, he's not supposed to help out the team offensively night after night. So you clearly state "he hasn't lost us any games" and was directly responsible for helpibg win 1 game. I'd say that's pretty much the more than you could've asked for from the guy. Why do you want him replaced again?
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02-25-2013, 10:47 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Perhaps you missed the GWG he had against Dallas that week? That's hardly nothing. And before you say it was just one game, he is a 4th line checker, he's not supposed to help out the team offensively night after night. So you clearly state "he hasn't lost us any games" and was directly responsible for helpibg win 1 game. I'd say that's pretty much the more than you could've asked for from the guy. Why do you want him replaced again?
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Great he got one GWG on a luckish kind of play. That is now all it takes to get signed to an NHL deal? Sweet deal for him I guess.
I think he can be replaced because he doesn't bring physicality, energy, offense, defense to them team and he is a 35 year old on a team that needs more youth and needs to move away from old band-aid solutions.
I don't think it is a big deal if he is here or gone just don't understand the point of him being on the team when his role could be filled as good by someone younger who may develop as well.
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