02-21-2013, 09:28 AM
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If you look at it in slowmotion it looks kind of malicious, if you look at it in real time it just looks like an aggressive play that ending unfortunately.
The game isn't played in slowmotion, shouldn't have been a suspension. 2 minutes for contact to the head, and it is unfortunate that Hossa got hurt but his injury shouldn't cause the suspension
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02-21-2013, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
So we can have Wiese impale Keith on a spear then, yeah?
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Blaster...I didn't get to respond before the last thread got locked...in which you implied that, by Keith admiring the pass, Sedin was excused for the actions. DISAGREE TOTALLY...a deliberate head shot is a deliberate head shot, and as Keith was NOT moving, Sedin clearly targeted the head.
If the roles were reversed on that given play, Vancouver fans would certainly have beeen outraged, and given your stated desire for vengeance, in the above quote, then the 'Hawks would have been justified to send a goon out to administer the tit for tat justice that is so unfortunately prevalent in the NHL. In the event, Keith took it into his own hands to administer the payback head shot.
Now, I am not excusing Keith, his suspension was deserved, but, I feel that the NHL has let it's players and fans down by having ignored the event that preciptated the whole ugly cycle of retaliation, the Sedin chin shot shoulder in the corner.
So, in this last game, we had Hansen, attempting to catch a puck with his elbow, by thrusting it, from behind, through the head of our best player on the ice at the time...again, given the logic which you espouse in your quote, which equivalent player should the Blackhawks send Bollig to cripple in the next meeting? After all, going after Hansen would NOT be equivalent to taking a top scorer off the ice.
Again, not excusing Keith's actions, but, at least he took personal revenge, and it wasn't some 4th line POS committing the mayhem, as you propose should now occur.
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02-21-2013, 10:30 AM
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Kesler should've gotten a fine for his dive.
Repeat offender, attacking the integrity of the game.
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02-21-2013, 10:39 AM
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I thought it should have been more than 1 game.
Glencross received 3 games for a headshot to Drury, and I am pretty sure that was his 1st offense and the hit was way less malicious.
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02-21-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
I thought it should have been more than 1 game.
Glencross received 3 games for a headshot to Drury, and I am pretty sure that was his 1st offense and the hit was way less malicious.
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This is just ridiculous
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02-21-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by northcrunk
I think it should have been more too, reminded me of the Bertuzzi headshot from behind on Moore except Hossa didn't have his career ended.
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Haha except for the trailing him around the ice, the premeditated aspect, the punch, the falling on him, the attempt at a second punch, the fact the puck wasn't near Bertuzzi or Moore, pulling of the shirt, the actual punch... There is actually little if anything that is like the Bertuzzi headshot other than one of the teams is the same.
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02-21-2013, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by neo45
This is just ridiculous
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What is? That Glencoss received more?
Then I agree...
Different people handing out the punishment though.
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02-21-2013, 10:57 AM
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Hossa is back in practice and should play Friday, so it looks like keeping him out for the 3rd period on Tuesday was just precautionary.
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02-21-2013, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by AR_Six
Hossa is back in practice and should play Friday, so it looks like keeping him out for the 3rd period on Tuesday was just precautionary.
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It's a miracle that Hossa is back so quickly after taking that vicious shot to the head....
In all seriousness though, I'm glad Hossa is alright. If hate for the NHL to lose a player the caliber of Hossa. I can live with the 1 game suspension for Hansen until a far worse hit goes unpunished.
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02-21-2013, 11:41 AM
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I'm REALLY glad Hossa is alright, I'm 12 points clear of 2nd place in my snake draft pool and need to keep the party going.
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02-21-2013, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Blaster...I didn't get to respond before the last thread got locked...in which you implied that, by Keith admiring the pass, Sedin was excused for the actions. DISAGREE TOTALLY...a deliberate head shot is a deliberate head shot, and as Keith was NOT moving, Sedin clearly targeted the head.
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Deliberate headshots aren't the problem, blindside shots are. If Keith isn't admiring his pass it isn't a blindside. Keith should learn that even if it's just a Sedin, they can still hit him.
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
If the roles were reversed on that given play, Vancouver fans would certainly have beeen outraged, and given your stated desire for vengeance, in the above quote, then the 'Hawks would have been justified to send a goon out to administer the tit for tat justice that is so unfortunately prevalent in the NHL. In the event, Keith took it into his own hands to administer the payback head shot.
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Oh no, I was merely refrencing the frontier justice stated by Transplant. And I wouldn't be outraged, I would have accepted there was no call because the Canuck player was staring at this glorius little chip up the boards. The difference here is, Sedin's hit was clean. Keith's retaliation, because he couldn't watch that magnificent chip pass a little bit longer, was dirtier than than Chicago ghetto Theo talks about in Playing with Fire.
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Now, I am not excusing Keith, his suspension was deserved,
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You are trying to both excuse and justify it over a clean hit.
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
but, I feel that the NHL has let it's players and fans down by having ignored the event that preciptated the whole ugly cycle of retaliation, the Sedin chin shot shoulder in the corner.
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See.
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
So, in this last game, we had Hansen, attempting to catch a puck with his elbow, by thrusting it, from behind, through the head of our best player on the ice at the time...again, given the logic which you espouse in your quote, which equivalent player should the Blackhawks send Bollig to cripple in the next meeting? After all, going after Hansen would NOT be equivalent to taking a top scorer off the ice.
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Transplant agrees with you, which is why I said what I said. And it wouldn't be equivalent to that, but it would be... say... equivalent to a team's top scorer with a vicious elbow to the jaw.... cause the offending player didn't get to longingly look at the marvelous movement he put on the vulcanized rubber disc a little bit longer.
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Again, not excusing Keith's actions, but, at least he took personal revenge, and it wasn't some 4th line POS committing the mayhem, as you propose should now occur.
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You're totally trying to excuse Keith's actions. Hansen was reaching for the puck, and if Hossa had kept his head up and not let Torres turn his brains to mush, this isn't even 2 minutes. Sadly, staring the wrong direction must be a Blackhawk thing.
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02-21-2013, 02:24 PM
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Blaster...I would never characterize that Sedin launching a shoulder at Keith's chin as a "clean" hit...it was a cheap shot, to say differently is not an honest assessment...a "clean" hit would have had the shoulder driven into the logo on the chest...
Torres? You are really defending THAT guy, for THAT hit?
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02-21-2013, 02:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Deliberate headshots aren't the problem, blindside shots are. If Keith isn't admiring his pass it isn't a blindside. Keith should learn that even if it's just a Sedin, they can still hit him.
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"Blindside" has no meaning in the hockey lexicon anymore. It never really had any to begin with. Now, any hit where the head is the principal point of contact is a bad hit. Hence the Sedin hit was a bad hit.
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Hansen was reaching for the puck, and if Hossa had kept his head up and not let Torres turn his brains to mush, this isn't even 2 minutes.
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Probably true, but thin skull doctrine and all that.
On Torres by the way I maintain that that hit was blown way out of proportion and the suspension that followed was ridiculous. 20 games for the stretcher alone.
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02-21-2013, 02:35 PM
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For those claiming that Hansen is not a dirty player and has no prior history, didn't he have a real cheap shot on a Bruin during the 3rd period of game 7 in 2011?
Nothing came of it but pretty sure it happened.
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02-21-2013, 02:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Blaster...I would never characterize that Sedin launching a shoulder at Keith's chin as a "clean" hit...it was a cheap shot, to say differently is not an honest assessment...a "clean" hit would have had the shoulder driven into the logo on the chest...
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It's totally honest, that was a clean hit last season. If they've removed blindside and changed it to principle point of contact, then sure. But last season, super clean. Keith just needs to keep his head up.
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Originally Posted by thefoss1957
Torres? You are really defending THAT guy, for THAT hit?
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Hit was fine. Again, Hossa was staring the wrong way, watching the puck and paid the price. 2 minutes, maybe for hitting too hard.
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02-21-2013, 04:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster86
Hit was fine. Again, Hossa was staring the wrong way, watching the puck and paid the price. 2 minutes, maybe for hitting too hard.
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The Torres hit was late.
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02-21-2013, 04:47 PM
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And he left his feet.
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02-21-2013, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Red John
For those claiming that Hansen is not a dirty player and has no prior history, didn't he have a real cheap shot on a Bruin during the 3rd period of game 7 in 2011?
Nothing came of it but pretty sure it happened.
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Yes, it did! Andrew Ference! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=VbbKhSKU3D0
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02-21-2013, 05:10 PM
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It was a careless and reckless play, one game is warranted.
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