I got blasted pretty good for saying the same thing after Monday's game on this site, so it was good to see I wasn't alone.
I like Iginla, I think he's a good guy. He's been a warrior for the Flames. But he has one of the biggest gaps between being on and off of any player I've seen where a Flames jersey since maybe Kent Nilsson.
That just isn't acceptable when you're a captain.
I have my head fully around the idea that he isn't 25 any more, and I expect and have no problem with a decline.
But when you don't seem to care about defensive coverage, you stop skating when you get the puck, and you lose every single battle including the turn over that leads to Minnesota's only goal?
You're not showing up.
He's better than that, and last night it looks like he was angry enough to prove it.
Hope Warrener rides him all season.
Sorry but I think that's crap. The guy has been a consistent scorer in the league for over a decade, and he gets labelled as inconsistent. The only reason he looks on and off is that he's always in the spotlight on this team. Everyone watching a Flames game knows when Iggy is on the ice, and his every shift gets scrutinized. That, in combination with his reputation, leads to expectations that he should be scoring pretty much every shift and every game. When he doesn't, people get disappointed and he gets labelled as inconsistent, or not fired up.
Sorry but I think that's crap. The guy has been a consistent scorer in the league for over a decade, and he gets labelled as inconsistent. The only reason he looks on and off is that he's always in the spotlight on this team. Everyone watching a Flames game knows when Iggy is on the ice, and his every shift gets scrutinized. That, in combination with his reputation, leads to expectations that he should be scoring pretty much every shift and every game. When he doesn't, people get disappointed and he gets labelled as inconsistent, or not fired up.
Most on Calgarypuck don't call out Iginla for his scoring, we all know that he is good for 30 goals in a full season.
What Iginla gets criticized for is his lack of commitment to a 200 foot game, this becomes increasingly noticeable when the scoring dries up though because Iginla starts to cheat when he is looking for that goal.
Watch the games against the Canucks/Wild and compare that to his performance against Dallas and they are night and day. He didn't score is any of those games but he was applauded after the Stars game not for his points but for his 200 foot game and the fire/determination we used to see every game from Iginla.
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Sorry but I think that's crap. The guy has been a consistent scorer in the league for over a decade, and he gets labelled as inconsistent. The only reason he looks on and off is that he's always in the spotlight on this team. Everyone watching a Flames game knows when Iggy is on the ice, and his every shift gets scrutinized. That, in combination with his reputation, leads to expectations that he should be scoring pretty much every shift and every game. When he doesn't, people get disappointed and he gets labelled as inconsistent, or not fired up.
actually what you said was crap
I never mentioned goal scoring records in a season. I was pretty clear in explaining my issues with the guy and they were very specific in terms of positioning, going into the dirty areas, and being a part of a team solution to defense, and transition. I mentioned his feet moving, his battle level
I think maybe when you're a fan of a player (which Iginla deserves many) I think you tend to focus on 30 goals and 35 assists and not pay much attention to plus/minus and what he actually does away from the other team's net.
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To expand a little, when your 3 or 4 highest paid players (12, 13, 4) are your best players as they were last night, you can expect the Flames to win a lot more games.
He might not, but plenty of media would have heard about it and asked him about it so it is almost certain that he heard about the comments whether listening to the fan or not.
I didn't hear the whole show, but what I did hear, he didn't take credit. He woudl only say that Iggy might have heard him and might have been made, the timing might have been coincidence, or he might not have heard at all.
Boomer and Walker were giving the credit to Warrner and were pushing a bit to get him to take credit, but he didn't bite - at least while I was listening.
They also played clips of Cammi and Tanguay talking about it - Tanguay said for sure the comments fired Iggy up. Cammi said it had nothing to do with it.
I don't know what got into Iggy last night - but I do know I liked what I saw and I would love to see that every game for the rest of the year. He doesn't have to fight every game, but after the effort against Minnesota, it was nice to see a glimps of that old fire again - and I would like to see again and again and again.
Rhett needs to get into a fist fight with Iggy before games and I think we're playoff bound.
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Well, deal with it. I wasn't cheering for Canada either way. Nothing worse than arrogant Canadian fans. They'd be lucky to finish 4th. Quote me on that. They have a bad team and that is why I won't be cheering for them.
I would think that Iginla having a two hour long sit down with the coach yesterday before the game would have a much bigger impact than a former teammate giving his opinion over the radio. I couldn't have been the only person to hear Maher mention that on the FAN.
I like Rhett but I really think its a stretch to make a connection between him and Iginla's performance.
Hartley > Warrener.
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iginla has to play angry. he has to be getting in scrums, chirping, hitting. thats when he is engaged, and there is a certain sharpness and edge to his game when hes like that. in a shortened season, he should be able to play near that for 48.
but Warrner was right. Iggy was motivated last night. It was one game, he used to be like that all the time. The players who play really well on occassion when they are called out have motivation issues. Maybe the fact that this team has made 8th place the goal shows that he's not the only one with motivation issues
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iginla has to play angry. he has to be getting in scrums, chirping, hitting. thats when he is engaged, and there is a certain sharpness and edge to his game when hes like that. in a shortened season, he should be able to play near that for 48.
This. I dont think Iggy needs to fight necessarily, he just needs to be physically and emotionally involved in the game. Whether its the Blue jackets or the Canucks. Be pushing, cross-checking, yapping, whatever. Even if it gets him a penalty or two, he's obviously way more valuable this way.
I have no problem with Rhett calling out Iggy. He speaks from a place of close experience. Nobody on the team is going to prod him so why not Rhett who is a long time team mate and friend.
lol Rhett take a poke at him every 10 games or so if he is slumping. Is someone on the team going to i doubt it, they are not that kind of a team.
Some people need a little jab now and then and they are thankful later.
I think Iggy is one of those guys.
Question his compete level question his heart...he responds he is proud.
Iginla was probably my favorite player to watch in his prime, I remember announcers would say don't play too physical with Iginla cause you'll wake up the sleeping giant. And it was so true, I remember many many games where the opposition would be chirping at him and running at him and he'd go on to have like a 3 point night.
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Iginla was probably my favorite player to watch in his prime, I remember announcers would say don't play too physical with Iginla cause you'll wake up the sleeping giant. And it was so true, I remember many many games where the opposition would be chirping at him and running at him and he'd go on to have like a 3 point night.
Pretty much what happened last night. He was at his fiery mouthy competitive best.
He did still make a couple of cherry picking plays but lots of forwards do and sometimes it's by design. As Bingo said, if he's contributing in other ways and plays even a 190 foot game then you can overlook the odd indiscretion where he's past the blue line before the puck clears our crease.
Warrener pretty much said he doesn't think his comments had any direct impact on Iggy and he even went back and listened to what he said to make doubly sure he didn't say anything outlandish. From what he said he pretty much called it like most have he just gets more cred because he's played the game and been in the room. He seemed to really not understand why there was such a todo about what he said and seemed surprised it was such a talking point nationally.
