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Old 02-08-2013, 09:36 AM   #21
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why would he even mention them if he had them? his goal is to kill as many cops as possible, so why bother warning them?
He's actually pretty specific about who he's after. There are several in his letter that he thanks, like ex-chiefs, sergeants...

His blanket warning to all cops is more of a warning.

In one section he says:

"Outside agencies and individual officers on patrol. If you recognize my vehicle, and confirm it is my vehicle thru a dmv/want warrant check. It behoves you to respond to dispatch that your query was for information purposes only. If you proceed with a traffic stop or attempt to notify other officers of my location or for backup you will not live to see the medal of valor you were hoping to receive for your actions. Think before you attempt to intervene. You will not survive."
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:39 AM   #22
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If he's not bluffing, he has access to these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SA-7_MANPADS.JPG

Also a .50 Caliber rifle, so he can cause a lot of damage if the police aren't careful
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:40 AM   #23
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THAT'S what you get after reading the delusional ramblings of a paranoid, (likely) mentally ill individual?

Apparently some people will believe anything if it fits their narrative.
I don't know if you've read his whole thing, but it's not all delusional, there are many parts in which he outlines quite clearly why he's doing what he's doing.

There are very serious mental problems with this man, but there's also a cause (allegedly). I think that will get swept under the rug, and he'll be labeled as just another crazy mass-shooter.
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Old 02-08-2013, 09:51 AM   #24
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I don't know if you've read his whole thing, but it's not all delusional, there are many parts in which he outlines quite clearly why he's doing what he's doing.

There are very serious mental problems with this man, but there's also a cause (allegedly). I think that will get swept under the rug, and he'll be labeled as just another crazy mass-shooter.
The cops running around shooting everyone who drives a pickup truck are not exactly discrediting him either.

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Old 02-08-2013, 09:54 AM   #25
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If he's not bluffing, he has access to these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SA-7_MANPADS.JPG

Also a .50 Caliber rifle, so he can cause a lot of damage if the police aren't careful
I would think he HAD access to these in the military, but there's no way they would let you carry one of those back to America and into your home.
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Shuddup you murderer apologist!

There is only one proper reaction to these cases and that is outrage and nothing but outrage, any other reaction makes you a murderer yourself.


...and makes you an idiot
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...and makes you an idiot
Your sarcasm detector didn't go off there? Not at all? Should probably get that checked out...
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Are the black cops that participated in the Rodney King beating not mentioned ?
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If he's not bluffing, he has access to these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SA-7_MANPADS.JPG
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It just shows how unbelievably unqualified cops can be. How the hell do you confuse a Toyota Tacoma, to a Honda Ridgeline to a Nissan Titan. They aren't even similar.

edit: LOL, they are supposed to be looking for a Nissan Titan (I thought it was a Tacoma). Which is 30% bigger than either of those trucks. So they have 2 identities wrong. Brutal, just brutal.
Not wanting to give him any credit, but it makes me wonder if he is somehow able to provide misinformation to the police (or even to individual units) to make them look bad.
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Not wanting to give him any credit, but it makes me wonder if he is somehow able to provide misinformation to the police (or even to individual units) to make them look bad.
even if somehow he was able to, the cops are idiots for not even confirming who the drivers were before opening fire. they're insanely lucky that no one was killed
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I don't know if you've read his whole thing, but it's not all delusional, there are many parts in which he outlines quite clearly why he's doing what he's doing.

There are very serious mental problems with this man, but there's also a cause (allegedly). I think that will get swept under the rug, and he'll be labeled as just another crazy mass-shooter.
He IS just another crazy mass shooter. Nothing in his manifesto, even if true (which I doubt), justifies what he is doing.

The so-called 'cause' doesn't justify a killing spree.
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There are parts of the Unibombers manifesto that were almost sane, but that doesn't make him rational.

There were parts of Osama Bin Laden's rambling speeches and statements, but that doesn't excuse what he did.

Charles Manson comes across as fairly bright and his followers believed and rationalized what he said but that man was crazy.

Insane people aren't always rambling mumbling screamers who talk about which animals told them to do what while having sex with a hole in the fence.

You could argue that Ted Bundy had serious serious mental issues but he came across as one of the most rational human beings to ever be fried
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Not wanting to give him any credit, but it makes me wonder if he is somehow able to provide misinformation to the police (or even to individual units) to make them look bad.
No, some police officers are just inept at identifying vehicles. I was pulled over on my motorcycle once, and the officer was looking at my registration, and the bike looking confused. I am sitting on the bike so I just pointed to the GIANT Suzuki decal on the gas tank. And the equally large GSX1300R decal on the rear cowling.

I have also had them go to the back of the car when I have been pulled over as well, not to look at the plate, but to look at the make badge. If a police officer cannot identify the make model and generation of 90% of vehicles without just a simple glance, they are not qualified for traffic duty IMHO.
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He IS just another crazy mass shooter. Nothing in his manifesto, even if true (which I doubt), justifies what he is doing.

The so-called 'cause' doesn't justify a killing spree.
Who here has said that? Give us one example.

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Who here has said that? Give us one example.

Thanks.
I think the comparison's to First Blood almost serve to glorify the shooter, but that's the only thing that even comes close in this thread.
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Why don't they just promote any citizen shooting him? That's what would happen in the 1770's when the 2nd amendment was written, and they are hanging onto the spirit of the original intent into the 21st century, so , go for it.
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He IS just another crazy mass shooter. Nothing in his manifesto, even if true (which I doubt), justifies what he is doing.

The so-called 'cause' doesn't justify a killing spree.
Justi-whaaat?

*Scans previous posts* <!--Unable to find word "Justify, justifies, justification"-->

If you don't ask why, only accept one side of the story and what the media tells you, you're going to have a pretty pin-light view of the story.

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I think the comparison's to First Blood almost serve to glorify the shooter, but that's the only thing that even comes close in this thread.
I think the poster that made that comparison, was just drawing the parallel that this guy looks like he is taking this fight into the wilderness now.
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The P.D doesn't need to provoke him any further either. Of all the people he shot, the first two not apart of the P.D even though they a part of a family in the P.D.

And seeing as they are willing to shoot anything that even moderately resembles a truck it might be a good idea to keep them all at bay and let the F.B.I handle this.

Maybe I am not reading this story properly, but Im not sold on him going on a rampaging killing spree, his attacks outside of the first two seem reactionary and provoked.

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