WWE News: Cleaning House

[Ozy_Flame]

Calculoso, I think they're finally steering in that path. In all honesty, no hardcore wrestling fan would have ever thought that John Cena would be the FIRST draft pick on RAW, would see Rob Van Dam shoot on his own company on the microphone in front of millions of people (at ECW ONS), and would have thought Michaels would turn heel on Hogan (especially at this point in his career). The WWE is finally realizing shock value again, and if history has told us anything about the wrestling industry, there are always lulls in action and interest before the industry as a whole rebounds. This has happened in the early 80's when Hogan set the wrestling world on fire, and the mid 90's with the nWo and the Monday night ratings war.

[Cowboy]

I disagree... I think everyone saw the Cena pick coming and I watch about two minutes of wrestling a month....

It is predictable

[Ozy_Flame]

Nah. I would have expected Cena to be the last or second last pick for RAW, not the first. The WWE is predictable that way, as big events like that have usually taken place towards the end of the storyline, or the end of the show. Anything like that happens once in a blue moon.

[Cowboy]

ahhh I see what you are saying, you are right, at least in my oppinion...Definately the bombshell should be last as per classic WWE

[Super-Rye]

Who would have predicted the bWo would attack JBL. Infact...who the heck is the bWo?

[Inferno]

Originally posted by Super-Rye@Jul 8 2005, 03:50 AM
Who would have predicted the bWo would attack JBL. Infact...who the heck is the bWo?

blue World order. They're an old ECW stable that poked fun at the nWo. JBL and The Blue Meanie have had a real life feud for the last several years and JBL actually threw real punches at him at the ECW PPV and re-opened stitches he had from the night before. The WWE bringing him for one night and beating JBL was probably punishment for what JBL did. Apparently before the show they both met and put their past differences aside.

[Buff]

Vince McMahon didn't kill wrestling. The former owners of WCW killed WCW. They allowed people who didn't know a thing about wrestling to run the company. Those guys let the egotistical wrestlers make decisions for their own benefit, not the companies. WCW quickly started to fail, and WWE(F) didn't have any decent competition to push them to do better. He may be hurting his company with some of the decisions he has made since he bought ECW and WCW, hence not helping the industry much, but wrestling was already in decline before this.

IMO they are doing the brand extension all wrong. Instead of having the yearly draft, they should just have a guy from Raw showup on Smackdown at any point in the year (out of the blue) and explain it as his contract expired with 'the other company' and he is now signed with Smackdown. Or vice versa. Kinda like the way things happened when there was WWF and WCW. This will create a better sense of company competition between the two, as they will be fighting each other for talent all throughout the year.

Although costs, combined with fan interest in the industry may not make this feasable, they should make Smackdown live again. Do things to give it more of a feel of a competing company to Raw, not Raw's 2nd rate sister show. They may have started this by moving Batista and the World Championship to Smackdown. (a big mistake to make the championship belts switch companies... it doesn nothing to promote competition between the two)

It would've been more controversial to have Cena jump from Smackdown to Raw, taking the belt with him and claiming to be the real champ (Like what Ric Flair did back in the early 90s) and start a showdown between Batista and Cena (or just vacating the Smackdown championship belt and jumping to Raw and challenging HHH). All the while Smackdown is reeling to find a new champ, they find their champ and all is well. Months pass and then a big name from Raw shows up to sweeten the talent pool and story lines on Smackdown.

Wrestling was at its peak when people were tuning in to see what WWF and WCW were going to do to out do each other. If Raw and Smackdown worked on the same idea then wrestling would start to pick up its fan base again. Hopefully they will reform ECW and treat it like a separate entity. Hopefully TNA will find a home on TV and slowly start to become better competition for WWE. Once something happens to make wrestling interesting again I'll probably start watching more often. I've been a fan for 20 years so its not something that I'll give up, but I just don't watch it very much anymore because it isn't as intersting as it once was.

Edit: I know it is friday, and Street Machine Weekend (in Lethbridge) but did I ever make a google of spelling and gramatical errors in this post.

[StoneCole]

Not bad buff. My story line goes like this:

Bring in a wrestler mid-year. Make it a guy who you know has the potential to be a superstar/champion. Have this guy lose every match all year long. Royal Rumble comes around. Have this guy draw in the late 20's or number 30. Have him win the rumble by some fluke. He is now the number one contender. Other wrestlers are outraged and the fans never ever saw it coming. Now, make the guy win the championship at Wrestlemania. Now the guy is a stud and have him win matches week in, week out from then on.

Great story IMO because it is so unorthodox for wrestling. No one will see it coming, and it will hit the fans like a Robyn Regehr slapper. Plus the guy is actually very charismatic/has potential, so once he becomes a star he has the ability to work the crowd.

[Buff]

Originally posted by StoneCole@Jul 8 2005, 02:08 PM
Not bad buff. My story line goes like this:

Bring in a wrestler mid-year. Make it a guy who you know has the potential to be a superstar/champion. Have this guy lose every match all year long. Royal Rumble comes around. Have this guy draw in the late 20's or number 30. Have him win the rumble by some fluke. He is now the number one contender. Other wrestlers are outraged and the fans never ever saw it coming. Now, make the guy win the championship at Wrestlemania. Now the guy is a stud and have him win matches week in, week out from then on.

Great story IMO because it is so unorthodox for wrestling. No one will see it coming, and it will hit the fans like a Robyn Regehr slapper. Plus the guy is actually very charismatic/has potential, so once he becomes a star he has the ability to work the crowd.

Yeah but my ideas were ideas that already have been done and worked to varying degrees.

Come to think of it your idea was tried but without the royal rumble and the championship. Remember the 1-2-3 Kid?

[StoneCole]

Originally posted by Buff+Jul 8 2005, 08:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Buff @ Jul 8 2005, 08:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-StoneCole@Jul 8 2005, 02:08 PM
Not bad buff.# My story line goes like this:

Bring in a wrestler mid-year.# Make it a guy who you know has the potential to be a superstar/champion.# Have this guy lose every match all year long.# Royal Rumble comes around.# Have this guy draw in the late 20's or number 30.# Have him win the rumble by some fluke.# He is now the number one contender.# Other wrestlers are outraged and the fans never ever saw it coming.# Now, make the guy win the championship at Wrestlemania.# Now the guy is a stud and have him win matches week in, week out from then on.

Great story IMO because it is so unorthodox for wrestling.# No one will see it coming, and it will hit the fans like a Robyn Regehr slapper.# Plus the guy is actually very charismatic/has potential, so once he becomes a star he has the ability to work the crowd.

Yeah but my ideas were ideas that already have been done and worked to varying degrees.

Come to think of it your idea was tried but without the royal rumble and the championship. Remember the 1-2-3 Kid? [/b][/quote]
Yeah, but thats why they gotta do it on the big stage, with the Rumble and then have him win the championship. That's also why you use a guy who the crowd will actually endear themselves to once he becomes champion.

I don't remember them trying it, but it sounds like they only half-assed it with 1-2-3 Kid/Syxx/X-Pac. For my plan to work they gotta' go balls out.

Goin'down to third ave. Lethbridge tonight?

[Buff]

Originally posted by Prottotype@Jul 6 2005, 03:32 PM
Joy Giovanni
Kenzo Suzuki
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig

I've also heard that the Dudley Boys (Bubba Ray and Devon) have not been offered a new contract either. Not released, but not re-signed.

I'd say the only suprise would be the Dudleys, but then again they have been killing the tag team division. It doesn't have the same feel as the days of the Heart Foundation and Demolition. Other than that, wasted tallent. Maven surprised me too cause of the Tough Enough connection.

Rumour has it that they are either getting rid of tallent that isn't used, or that they are cutting all these people so they can afford the return of Brock Lesnar.

I don't think this is the last of the list either. The list was about 6 names deep this morning.

Just curious Prottotype, did you get your name idea from the wrestler? The one currently known as John Cena?

[Buff]

Originally posted by StoneCole+Jul 8 2005, 02:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (StoneCole @ Jul 8 2005, 02:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Yeah but my ideas were ideas that already have been done and worked to varying degrees.

Come to think of it your idea was tried but without the royal rumble and the championship. Remember the 1-2-3 Kid?

Yeah, but thats why they gotta do it on the big stage, with the Rumble and then have him win the championship. That's also why you use a guy who the crowd will actually endear themselves to once he becomes champion.

I don't remember them trying it, but it sounds like they only half-assed it. For my plan to work they gotta' go balls out.

Goin'down to third ave. Lethbridge tonight? [/b][/quote]
I do it every year! This year will be interesting since it is the first time they've closed off 3rd Ave. At least we get to watch all the street wheelers cars, in previous years many of them were scared to cruise due to the teens wrecklessly cruising crappy cars to be seen, and old folks driving scared because there is so much traffic. Not to mention that it won't take an hour to cruise the strip this year. After 10:00 though, all the fun begins and everybody lets loose.

Anyhoo, back on topic

[Prototype]

Originally posted by Buff@Jul 8 2005, 01:21 PM
Just curious Prottotype, did you get your name idea from the wrestler? The one currently known as John Cena?

Nope.

I have a White Calgary Flames Pro Jersey with OTTO, #29, A crested on it.

I talked with KevanGuy about changing my name, and amongst other crapier names, between the two of us, we came up with Prottotype... Pro Otto... you get the idea.

[habernac]

thx for the clarification there, I just thought you couldn't spell prototype.

[Super-Rye]

Jim Cornette added to list of released talent.

Wasn't aware he was still around.

[the crispy badger]

Originally posted by Super-Rye@Jul 9 2005, 01:45 AM
Jim Cornette added to list of released talent.

Wasn't aware he was still around.

He was a teacher down in the minors and was released for slapping around a student...

[albertGQ]

Did anyone catch Raw last night? Matt Hardy attacks Edge!!! Now that was a surprise.

[the crispy badger]

Have you been reading some of the articles today?...turns out Matt's firing..Edges affair with Lita and everything else about this angle has been a complete WORK!..wow..the most incredibly real angle in wrestling history

[Inferno]

Originally posted by the crispy badger@Jul 12 2005, 01:00 PM
Have you been reading some of the articles today?...turns out Matt's firing..Edges affair with Lita and everything else about this angle has been a complete WORK!..wow..the most incredibly real angle in wrestling history

I read that last night was planned but that Lita cheating on Matt with Edge and him getting fired did actually happen. After the WWE saw just how much support he was getting after they released him they decided to try and re-sign him and make an angle out of it and both came to terms last week. He was looking at going to TNA or ROH but decided to go back to the WWE where the money and national exposure is.

[Freeway]

Originally posted by the crispy badger@Jul 12 2005, 06:00 PM
Have you been reading some of the articles today?...turns out Matt's firing..Edges affair with Lita and everything else about this angle has been a complete WORK!..wow..the most incredibly real angle in wrestling history

Before Vengeance, RAW had an Edge & Lita wedding where they played Matt Hardy's entrance music and video as a practical joke on the part of Edge. Matt was signed by then. Everything since then has been a work.