12-17-2012, 12:21 PM
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#21
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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner
I'm no lawyer, but this seems like obstruction to me. For check stops, speed cams, radar traps, whatever.
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I don't think so. All he's doing is spreading publicly available information.
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12-17-2012, 12:23 PM
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#22
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Retired
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Did you read the article?
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I did, but come now CC, my post was slightly sarcastic.
My point still stands that there are very few checkstops and CPS would rather do it at 4PM in the afternoon to catch that guy who just may be touching 0.08 than at 2 -3 AM on a Friday or Saturday night.
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12-17-2012, 12:31 PM
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#23
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Originally Posted by Flabbibulin
I have been driving in Calgary for 14 years and have been through maybe 2 or 3 checkstops.
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I find this strange... I've been driving for...10 years now, and I've been through atleast 10 MINIMUM. They are always nice about it, say "Evening, anything to drink tonight? Great, take it easy." Once he even joked around that it was a cold drive without the top on my jeep and to hurry up home so I wouldnt be cold. This is one time when CPS have been more than pleasant.
IMO, we should have them all over, why not...if you dont drink and drive, its literally 1 minute out of your way.
I should note too, i have been through them and been completely honest that I have had a drink (1, literally, as i have never driven drunk) and they are still fine. They are trained to know and seem really reasonable about it. AND this is after the .005 rule.
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12-17-2012, 12:35 PM
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#24
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I don't know where I stand on this issue yet but I do follow that Twitter account.
For those that say this is no different than Tweeting speed traps is dead wrong. If you know where a speed trap is, when you take that road, you slow down.
But if you're drunk and find out a location of the checkstop, you don't just all of a sudden drive sober. You just take an alternate route and drive drunk on a different road
However, some may decide to just cab it or crash whereever they are. So it can be used to reduce drunk driving. Or they may just wait another hour or two to sober up a bit more.
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12-17-2012, 12:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
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I'll gladly burn time in line for a check-stop if it means stopping these idiots from killing somebody.
In fact, I kind of wish I'd run into them more often.
I get that this Tweeter will claim that he is doing it to eliminate inconvenience for sober drivers, but it's enabling the irresponsible drunkards and reducing their personal risk in making an asshatted decision. I'm sure they can find a way to prove that this is circumventing the law and shut this doofus down.
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12-17-2012, 12:42 PM
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#26
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i grew up in wpg and drove there for 15 yrs and passed thru one traffic stop, lived in ontario for 3 years and passed thru none, and lived in calgary since 1999 and passed thru none. and i play hockey on a lot of nights on the weekends, so i am driving around between 7 and midnight.....
i find these tweets stupid, but one some lvel it is no different that the police publishing locations of photo radar in the paper
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12-17-2012, 12:45 PM
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#27
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy
I find this strange... I've been driving for...10 years now, and I've been through atleast 10 MINIMUM. They are always nice about it, say "Evening, anything to drink tonight? Great, take it easy." Once he even joked around that it was a cold drive without the top on my jeep and to hurry up home so I wouldnt be cold. This is one time when CPS have been more than pleasant.
IMO, we should have them all over, why not...if you dont drink and drive, its literally 1 minute out of your way.
I should note too, i have been through them and been completely honest that I have had a drink (1, literally, as i have never driven drunk) and they are still fine. They are trained to know and seem really reasonable about it. AND this is after the .005 rule.
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Been driving for over 10 years now. Still at 0.
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12-17-2012, 12:45 PM
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy
I find this strange... I've been driving for...10 years now, and I've been through atleast 10 MINIMUM.
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I said it last year in the thread then, I've seen well over 10. An average of a couple a year the last few years. Sometimes I drive through them, sometimes I'm driving the other way.
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12-17-2012, 12:46 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yamer
I'll gladly burn time in line for a check-stop if it means stopping these idiots from killing somebody.
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Quoted for truth.
If you have nothing to hide/fear I see no problem in driving through a checkstop.
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12-17-2012, 12:46 PM
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#30
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy
I find this strange... I've been driving for...10 years now, and I've been through atleast 10 MINIMUM. They are always nice about it, say "Evening, anything to drink tonight? Great, take it easy." Once he even joked around that it was a cold drive without the top on my jeep and to hurry up home so I wouldnt be cold. This is one time when CPS have been more than pleasant.
IMO, we should have them all over, why not...if you dont drink and drive, its literally 1 minute out of your way.
I should note too, i have been through them and been completely honest that I have had a drink (1, literally, as i have never driven drunk) and they are still fine. They are trained to know and seem really reasonable about it. AND this is after the .005 rule.
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Interesting. Born and raised in Calgary and have been driving independently for 9 years now and have never driven through, nor seen a check stop. I live in the NW and have commuted from downtown to the NW many times on weekends and holidays.
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12-17-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gottabekd
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^ oh look...this thread again.
History repeats...
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12-17-2012, 01:06 PM
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#32
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Sorry for your inconvienice but I think that there are greater tragedies in life then the loss of your time, if it gets people off the road who can potential injure or kill innocent people.
And how do you know that people that think that they are capable of drinking and driving won't check their twitter.
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There sure are.
I'd be all for taking away the drivers license for drunk driver for life.
I'd also be all for mandatory life sentences for someone who drives drunk and kills someone.
I'm not all for being punished or having my rights suspended because some other drivers can't be trusted to make reasonable decisions.
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12-17-2012, 01:08 PM
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Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Canehdianman
I'm not all for being punished or having my rights suspended because some other drivers can't be trusted to make reasonable decisions.
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Can you please expand on this thought? How are your rights being punished/suspended?
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12-17-2012, 01:10 PM
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#34
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Lifetime Suspension
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Please do not try and expand on that thought.
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12-17-2012, 01:15 PM
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#35
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Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Can you please expand on this thought? How are your rights being punished/suspended?
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Checkstops are contrary to Section 9 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
The courts have found that this infringement is saved under Section 1.
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
This does not, however, mean that your rights aren't violated when you are detained by the Police without probable cause.
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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner
Please do not try and expand on that thought.
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Too late.
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12-17-2012, 01:15 PM
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#36
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Lifetime Suspension
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Good, I am going to set up a Twitter account and give warnings that will filter people into the Checkstops. So if the Checkstop is at Heritage:
"Checkstop @ Soutland & Blackfoot make sure you use Heritage route."
Even out the odds.
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12-17-2012, 01:20 PM
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#37
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Canehdianman
Checkstops are contrary to Section 9 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
The courts have found that this infringement is saved under Section 1.
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
This does not, however, mean that your rights aren't violated when you are detained by the Police without probable cause.
Too late.
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going through a checkstop is not being detained nor arrested, saying that your being detained or arrested makes no sense, you should be screaming about your civil liberties then when you have to wait in line to pay a parking ticket.
You might possibly argue about illegal search and seizure, however they do have the right to probable cause, I.e. slurred speech, smell of booze, passed out hooker in your lap.
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12-17-2012, 01:23 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Canehdianman
Checkstops are contrary to Section 9 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
9. Everyone has the right not to be arbitrarily detained or imprisoned.
The courts have found that this infringement is saved under Section 1.
1. The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
This does not, however, mean that your rights aren't violated when you are detained by the Police without probable cause.
Too late.
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What a load....
This is not, as mentioned above detainment of imprisonment.
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12-17-2012, 01:37 PM
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#39
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In the Sin Bin
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I've been waved through all but one of the four checkstops that I've seen. Once we even had 7 people squished into a regular sedan and still got waved through.
It's weird too cause I'm in my early 20's. You would think I'd be stopped everytime.
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12-17-2012, 01:48 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Young-Sneezy
I find this strange... I've been driving for...10 years now, and I've been through atleast 10 MINIMUM. They are always nice about it, say "Evening, anything to drink tonight? Great, take it easy." Once he even joked around that it was a cold drive without the top on my jeep and to hurry up home so I wouldnt be cold. This is one time when CPS have been more than pleasant.
IMO, we should have them all over, why not...if you dont drink and drive, its literally 1 minute out of your way.
I should note too, i have been through them and been completely honest that I have had a drink (1, literally, as i have never driven drunk) and they are still fine. They are trained to know and seem really reasonable about it. AND this is after the .005 rule.
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Yep, and I'm not exaggerating on the figure- 2 or 3 times in all the years I've been driving in Calgary. I seriously cant remember the last time I went through one, but my guess would be more than 5 years. I drive a decent amount as well, at all times of the day.
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