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Old 10-25-2012, 09:57 AM   #21
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Who cares. As long as it's not a nazi/swastika tattoo covering his face, I don't care what tattoos he (or any other worker in any industry) does as long as he does his job.
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What do you mean by this statement?
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I mean that the tattoos probably put them in a bad light to begin with, so to get to the point of being seen on par with other qualified candidates they had to do more.
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I mean that the tattoos probably put them in a bad light to begin with, so to get to the point of being seen on par with other qualified candidates they had to do more.
I don't think it would be fair to have a candidate go through all the ropes and then have a tattoo hold them back. If there is a policy, they should know about before it ever gets to that point.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:33 AM   #24
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I don't think it would be fair to have a candidate go through all the ropes and then have a tattoo hold them back. If there is a policy, they should know about before it ever gets to that point.
I'm not sure what this has to do with my post, but I agree. I'm also pretty certain that hiring policies of entities like the police are readily available to applicants.
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Old 10-25-2012, 10:42 AM   #25
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I'm not sure what this has to do with my post, but I agree. I'm also pretty certain that hiring policies of entities like the police are readily available to applicants.
I think I am misunderstanding your comment.

How do you get to the point of being on par with other candidates if you don't already prove yourself by getting the required education and training?

To be "on par" with other candidates, wouldn't they already have to go through all training? I'm sure that before they actually go through all the training and education, that a very large portion of the population would be considered "on par" to the same extent.
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Old 10-25-2012, 11:46 AM   #26
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I think I am misunderstanding your comment.

How do you get to the point of being on par with other candidates if you don't already prove yourself by getting the required education and training?

To be "on par" with other candidates, wouldn't they already have to go through all training? I'm sure that before they actually go through all the training and education, that a very large portion of the population would be considered "on par" to the same extent.
Huh? Education and training? We're talking about hiring decisions, which would come before training. I'm not talking about guys meeting minimum eligibility requirements, I'm talking about going through the hiring process.
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Huh? Education and training? We're talking about hiring decisions, which would come before training. I'm not talking about guys meeting minimum eligibility requirements, I'm talking about going through the hiring process.
Don't you need education and training to even be considered for the hiring process though? I would hope that the police require candidates to have some type of credentials before they recruit someone.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:46 PM   #28
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I'm against visible tattoos for any government employee. The position should be one of professionalism, and I don't consider tattoos to be professional.

Guess me and Grandma are the only ones who feel this way.... Maybe I need to move to Japan.
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Don't you need education and training to even be considered for the hiring process though? I would hope that the police require candidates to have some type of credentials before they recruit someone.
From the CPS website, minimum requiremnets:

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  • Grade 12 diploma or equivalent
  • Canadian citizen, landed immigrant status or permanent resident status
  • At least 18 years of age
  • Class 5 Driver's license (non GDL) with no more than 5 demerit points
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  • No criminal charges pending before the courts
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  • Strong credit rating
  • One year clear of discharge date from a bankruptcy
That being said, I suspect there will be many applicants with post-secondary, etc...
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Old 10-25-2012, 02:25 PM   #30
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I'm against visible tattoos for any government employee. The position should be one of professionalism, and I don't consider tattoos to be professional.

Guess me and Grandma are the only ones who feel this way.... Maybe I need to move to Japan.
It definately makes it easier to stereotype, would anyone take a PM candidate seriously if he had sleeves? Where do you draw the line? Piercings throughout the face have no impact on the ability of most people to perform their jobs either, but do you take someone with 17 studs in their lips and eyebrows seriously, other than as a waiter. Every generation gets further from the 'professional' norm. Jeans at work, tatoo's, piercings, the line is getting pretty blurry out there.

Not sure what my point is, haha, but i don't think your alone.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:14 PM   #31
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I'm against visible tattoos for any government employee. The position should be one of professionalism, and I don't consider tattoos to be professional.

Guess me and Grandma are the only ones who feel this way.... Maybe I need to move to Japan.
As a police officer in training right now I can tell you there is nothing wrong with tattoos providing they are not deemed offensive to the public. Police officers are supposed to reflect the community and a lot of the community right now has visible tattoos. This is not the "olden days" anymore, society changes. Piercings are a different story due to the dangers they pose to the officer. I have 7 tattoos on my forearms and they did not hold me back from getting hired. That being said, if you had neck tattoos or on your face you might find the road a little harder.
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From the CPS website, minimum requiremnets:



That being said, I suspect there will be many applicants with post-secondary, etc...
Not sure if it is the same there but here you have to pass an ATS testing course too along with proof of hours of volunteer time in the community as well as being able to show life experience. Life experience is the big one here right now, if you are under the age of 25 I can almost guarantee you are not getting on a police force in Ontario.
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Old 10-25-2012, 03:21 PM   #33
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I have been told they cannot remove blue at all, something to do with the laser does something to your veins. Not sure if it's true or not, I never looked into it after I was told that.
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Old 10-25-2012, 04:14 PM   #34
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As a general rule of thumb I think tats or wearing ed hardy t shirts should preclude you from being a cop as you obviously have some growing up to do and are still in the macho somewhat enamoured of violence or at least looking violent stage of development we all hopefully grow out of at 16 or 17.

Unless he's working undercover a cop shouldn't want to look like the dregs of humanity he arrests.
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As a general rule of thumb I think tats or wearing ed hardy t shirts should preclude you from being a cop as you obviously have some growing up to do and are still in the macho somewhat enamoured of violence or at least looking violent stage of development we all hopefully grow out of at 16 or 17.

Unless he's working undercover a cop shouldn't want to look like the dregs of humanity he arrests.
Who says tattoos have to represent violence? Way to stereotype there fella. The dregs of humanity huh? Who on here has tattoos? Now who has been arrested or considers themselves a "dreg of humanity?" This might be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on here.
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Some jobs can take it a bit too far with their tattoo policies. Four tiny words on my wrist almost cost me a job one time because it couldn't always be covered at all times. It should really depend on the actual tattoo and what it represents.
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Old 10-25-2012, 06:02 PM   #37
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No, lol. Didn't read the article. However, that tattoo exists everywhere so my point is still valid. People get "inked up" with that tribal crap and think it's cool. Just. The worst.
Not that I like them or anything, but what do you care what people get tattooed? You do realize that no matter what anyone looks like it pretty much means nothing as to how they are as a person? Your dislike of a tattoo only has something to do with you, not them.
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As a general rule of thumb I think tats or wearing ed hardy t shirts should preclude you from being a cop as you obviously have some growing up to do and are still in the macho somewhat enamoured of violence or at least looking violent stage of development we all hopefully grow out of at 16 or 17.

Unless he's working undercover a cop shouldn't want to look like the dregs of humanity he arrests.
Are you being serious? Although Ed Hardy is fun to make fun of, if you think that defines a person you have serious problems.
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Not really. I'm on my 14th appointment for getting rid of a maple leaf on my shoulder. Fourteen GD appointments, man. Can't imagine if I had a sleeve or something huge. I'd classify them as permanent...it's very expensive and time consuming (have to wait a minimum of 30 days between laser treatments) to remove a tattoo.
Is this what they use on you?

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As a general rule of thumb I think tats or wearing ed hardy t shirts should preclude you from being a cop as you obviously have some growing up to do and are still in the macho somewhat enamoured of violence or at least looking violent stage of development we all hopefully grow out of at 16 or 17.
Even based on your assumption that getting a tattoo means that you "obviously have some growing up to do and are still in the macho somewhat enamoured of violence or at least looking violent stage of development," how do you know that the person didn't get that tattoo when they were 16 or 17 and have already "grown out of it"?
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