Rob Anders says Mulcair helped to hasten Layton's death.

[mariners_fever]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

If a member of the media is interviewing you - you have to expect that the contents of that interview are going to make their way into the article. To go off on a diatribe like he obviously did shows a complete lack of cognitive thought on the part of Rob Anders. He is obviously not a smart man, not for taking the position (which itself is sort of stupid) but for going to the media and actually stating it. It isn't about being honest - it is about being sensible

Fair enough, but I don't think a few sentences is a diatribe in that it was neither forceful nor bitter. If it was, tone cannot be captured in print so we cannot assume diatribical intent.

Look, like I said, I'm not an Anders supporter, but I was on the Hill when the election was called, and from the murmurs around the Hill from ALL parties, Mr Anders is saying what many have known or thought to have happened.

It's just curious to me that when people like Mr Trudeau call others derogatory names in the House, he seems to get a free pass and the 'conspiracy' must be true. As soon as the name Rob Anders is used, rationality is thrown down the drain. The guy has been far from perfect, but this is just a non-story to me. It simply isn't news.

[Jacks]

They just said something on Rutherford about Anders not having incumbent protection next election. Didn't catch it all, just that little bit.

[mariners_fever]

Originally Posted by Jacks

They just said something on Rutherford about Anders not having incumbent protection next election. Didn't catch it all, just that little bit.

From a nomination, you mean?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by fotze

I don't think anyone doubts that this is the common thought of the party on the opposition of the NDP, you just don't say stuff like that.

I bet alot of the NDP think that Harper is a complete racist, but they don't say as much.

Especially to members of the media - talking between friends is one thing, but for an elected official to say that to a member of the media is just stupid.

[mariners_fever]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Especially to members of the media - talking between friends is one thing, but for an elected official to say that to a member of the media is just stupid.

Agreed, one must know how to manage the media. My comment about the reporter wasn't to suggest this was peculiar behaviour from a media correspondant. Just an observation about how the media acts in general.

You're absolutely right that saying that to them is stupid if you want to come out looking okay after.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by woob

So - Thoughts on this? Is Anders right even though it was insensitive of him to speak about it? He is out to lunch and is this the kind of comment that he should finally resign over? Discuss.

I doubt Rob was awake long enough to notice anything in the House.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Another day, another stupid Anders gaffe. In the end, this means nothing. It should be obvious at this point that Anders is completely immune to any form of accountability either from the citizens in his riding or the CPC caucus. Voters in Calgary West will continue to re-elect him to landslide victories time and again solely because he has "Conservative Party of Canada" under his name on the ballot.

This.

I'm surprised he even bothered to apologize. What a ######bag.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by mariners_fever

From a nomination, you mean?

Don't know. I was on a phone call and had the radio muted. When I got off the phone I turned the sound back on and he was saying that Anders won't have incumbent protection in 2015 and that the timing was interesting considering his recent comments. Then they went to commericial.

[mariners_fever]

Originally Posted by Jacks

Don't know. I was on a phone call and had the radio muted. When I got off the phone I turned the sound back on and he was saying that Anders won't have incumbent protection in 2015 and that the timing was interesting considering his recent comments. Then they went to commericial.

That is interesting. As far as I am aware, party rules are that anyone can be challenged for a nomination if someone with the proper credentials steps forward, even the PM. I know others will cite the party 'protecting' Mr Anders in 2009 from a challenge, but I also know that the nomination was being called off for reasons that had nothing to do with Mr Anders himself.

[c.t.ner]

Originally Posted by Jacks

They just said something on Rutherford about Anders not having incumbent protection next election. Didn't catch it all, just that little bit.

I heard, that it might be tied to the redistribution of Federal Ridings for the next election in the City and a potential split of the Calgary West riding. But all the information I found in the Calgary Herald noted that Calgary West was to remain relatively untouched.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by c.t.ner

I heard, that it might be tied to the redistribution of Federal Ridings.

That would make sense.

[mariners_fever]

Originally Posted by c.t.ner

I heard, that it might be tied to the redistribution of Federal Ridings for the next election in the City and a potential split of the Calgary West riding. But all the information I found in the Calgary Herald noted that Calgary West was to remain relatively untouched.

Not quite, much of the NW area will be taken out as will the areas surrounding the University.

[Rerun]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10...b-anders-says/

Outspoken Tory MP Rob Anders apologizes for suggesting Thomas Mulcair hastened Jack Layton’s death


Outspoken Conservative backbencher Rob Anders has apologized for suggesting NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair helped hasten the death of his predecessor, Jack Layton, by forcing him into an election despite his poor health.

Anders, who was already considered isolated from leadership in his party, received a quick rebuke Monday morning from the Prime Minister’s Office and may face further discipline after his interview with political website iPolitics.

Kudos to Harper for jumping on Anders right away and forcing him to apologize.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by mariners_fever

So in other words, a politician asked a question by the media, answered the question, and is now lambasted by the media for being honest?

Again, I'm no Anders supporter, but people complain and wonder why we only ever get dishonest politicians who only regurgitate party talking points?

This reporter sounds spineless to set up a lunch and lead someone to believe they're being given an honest interview only to use it to make try and make them look bad. Shame.

Calgary West voter.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Rerun

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/10...b-anders-says/



Kudos to Harper for jumping on Anders right away and forcing him to apologize.

Yeah, I'm sure Anders has learned his lesson.

[mariners_fever]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Calgary West voter.

False.

[Bertuzzied]

hahhahaha what a jackass.

Keep protecting him Harper. I want to see your end game with Anders ruling Canada.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Yeah, I'm sure Anders has learned his lesson.

Given his track record I'd wager he hasn't... but that's beside my point.

My point was that Harper publicly humiliated Anders by forcing him to apologize and Anders will most likely be subject to further disciplinary action by the party.

Anders is an outcast in the party (15 years as an MP and he's still a back bencher... and he's been removed from any meaningful committee position) who Harper really doesn't want to have anything to do with.

No tears will be shed in the CPC when Anders retires.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Given his track record I'd wager he hasn't... but that's beside my point.

My point was that Harper publicly humiliated Anders by forcing him to apologize and Anders will most likely be subject to further disciplinary action by the party.

Anders is an outcast in the party (15 years as an MP and he's still a back bencher... and he's been removed from any meaningful committee position) who Harper really doesn't want to have anything to do with.

No tears will be shed in the CPC when Anders retires.

Ummm that was the most sarcastic post of the year. haha

Anders is not an outcast, he is a key part of the CPC party. Why do you think Harper bends over backwards to support him, while non i-sheep voters in Calgary West gets bent over.

[nik-]

Considering his tenure, he probably would have had a cabinet posting by now if it wasn't for that unfortunately strain of ######ation he seems to have.