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Old 09-26-2012, 10:16 PM   #21
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Hm, now I remember why I don't read youtube comments.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:21 PM   #22
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puckluck, why would you post something inflammatory like this without having done any research?
Did you want me to read every single news story before I made a thread?

This was the original article I read

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/...943/story.html

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RCMP say there is more than one side to the story of a recent arrest in which an officer kicked a handcuffed man lying on the ground in the face.



They later on contradict themselves and say he wasn't handcuffed so excuse my confusion.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:28 PM   #23
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Did you want me to read every single news story before I made a thread?
Yes, most people actually try to verify things before posting them.
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Do you understand the point of a message board?
Discussion. Of which "Simply no excuse for this behaviour." + a drive by video posting does not properly start.
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A Cold Lake RCMP constable is under investigation after a video surfaced Tuesday of a violent arrest near the northern Alberta city over the weekend.

Three officers from the Cold Lake detachment responded around 1 a.m. Saturday to a complaint of 100 intoxicated people causing a disturbance in the parking lot of a community hall where a birthday party was being held, RCMP said Tuesday in a statement. Video of the arrest captured by an onlooker and uploaded to YouTube on Sunday shows an RCMP officer kicking a man in the face.

“The video shows the struggle, with two officers attempting to put two sets of cuffs on the subject, with one of the officers kicking the subject in the face with his right foot,” the statement says.

RCMP have launched an investigation into the officer’s conduct and will determine whether he used excessive force while arresting the man, RCMP said.

Click here to see a Youtube video of the arrest (warning: graphic language)

“I can assure Albertans, and those involved, that I have been made aware of the video and have ordered a full review,” RCMP Supt. Randy McGinnis said in the statement. “While I understand my officers were confronted with a volatile and potentially dangerous situation, we will look into the incident to assess if police actions were warranted, appropriate, or excessive.”

The officers were responding to a complaint from one of the party organizers who asked for help in dispersing the crowd. When RCMP began trying to clear the crowd, an intoxicated man refused to leave and became aggressive, RCMP said. Two of the officers focused on arresting the man, while the third controlled the crowd that had gathered.

The man, 21-year-old Richard Claybert, says it started when RCMP told the crowd they had to leave the area. Claybert had been at the birthday party and was planning to sleep in the camper attached to his pickup truck in the parking lot. He says RCMP told him he would have to find another way home and that truck would be towed and impounded.

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“I got kind of frustrated, so I turned away to walk away from it,” said Claybert, who is hearing impaired. “And apparently the cop said as I was walking away that I was under arrest. I didn’t hear anything and my friends said they didn’t hear anything either.”

Claybert says when he turned around again, he was pepper sprayed in the face. He was also hit with a police baton on the back of his leg. Claybert continued to argue with the officers before he gave in, he said Tuesday.

“Finally I just kind of got frustrated and wanted it to end, so I got down on my stomach and put my hands behind my back,” he said.

The 54-second video, uploaded to YouTube on Sunday, begins when Claybert is already on the ground with his hands behind his back. Two RCMP officers are kneeling next to Claybert, who is lying on his stomach in front of a red pickup truck. The officers were attempting to arrest Claybert for causing a disturbance, but RCMP said he wouldn’t comply with their demands and continued to act aggressively.

A crowd of onlookers shout at the officers as they try to place Claybert under arrest.

“Officer, what’s your name?” shouts one person. “What’s your badge number?” another shouts. Others in the crowd swear, jeer and heckle the officers.

About halfway through the video, Claybert turns his head toward the officers and shouts something that can’t be fully deciphered.

One of the officers then brings his leg forward and kicks Claybert in the face, eliciting a loud reaction from the crowd of onlookers. The officer then kicks him again.

“Who else wants to get arrested,” a third officer asks the crowd. The video ends with Claybert being taken away in handcuffs.

RCMP say they didn’t know Claybert was hearing impaired, but that he continued to struggle even while he was on the ground.

Claybert said he suffered bruises to his face, the back of his leg and a rib. He said he is facing charges for public intoxication and resisting arrest and was released the following morning. He is slated to appear in Cold Lake provincial court on Oct. 24.

The officer in question is currently on leave and will be assigned to administrative duties when he returns to work, RCMP said.

While a public complaint hasn’t been filed, Claybert said he is glad the officer is being investigated.

“I think that’s the right thing to do,” he said. He plans to consult with a lawyer before deciding whether to file a complaint.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:10 PM   #26
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It's hard to tell what was going on in that video. The old "kick in the face" routine never looks good, but since we don't know what happened, and with all those drunk rednecks screaming and yelling, we probably never will.

We do see what happened in this one though...



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http://jalopnik.com/5946658/the-dall...been-suspended

Never mind that many of the people he was riding with were doing unsafe and/or illegal things. Chris Moore had been minding the letter of the law. As a result, the officer who arrested Moore and confiscated his helmet cam as "evidence" has been suspended without pay for 38 days by the Dallas Sheriff's Office.
Unfortunately for Sheriff's Deputy James Westbrook, the only evidence turned up by Moore's helmet cam was video used against him to show that he stopped Moore for no reason before seizing his property without a warrant. Moore wasn't speeding and riding with a helmet cam is legal. Westbrook arrested Moore because he "couldn't see his license plate."


The "He Didn't Kiss The Cop's Ass So He Had It Coming Defense" is a favorite of mine, so I'll be thanking anyone who comes up with a variation of that.

But! Since the Officer was disciplined by the police force, and we all know that despite video evidence to the contrary, the police officer did nothing wrong, we have a conundrum. Who, other than the guy that was arrested, is in the wrong? The officer, or the police force itself?
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:24 PM   #27
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CP condoning the actions of violent cops, theres a shocker!
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:27 PM   #28
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It's hard to tell what was going on in that video. The old "kick in the face" routine never looks good, but since we don't know what happened, and with all those drunk rednecks screaming and yelling, we probably never will.

We do see what happened in this one though...



via Jalopnik

http://jalopnik.com/5946658/the-dall...been-suspended

Never mind that many of the people he was riding with were doing unsafe and/or illegal things. Chris Moore had been minding the letter of the law. As a result, the officer who arrested Moore and confiscated his helmet cam as "evidence" has been suspended without pay for 38 days by the Dallas Sheriff's Office.
Unfortunately for Sheriff's Deputy James Westbrook, the only evidence turned up by Moore's helmet cam was video used against him to show that he stopped Moore for no reason before seizing his property without a warrant. Moore wasn't speeding and riding with a helmet cam is legal. Westbrook arrested Moore because he "couldn't see his license plate."


The "He Didn't Kiss The Cop's Ass So He Had It Coming Defense" is a favorite of mine, so I'll be thanking anyone who comes up with a variation of that.

But! Since the Officer was disciplined by the police force, and we all know that despite video evidence to the contrary, the police officer did nothing wrong, we have a conundrum. Who, other than the guy that was arrested, is in the wrong? The officer, or the police force itself?
Are we really supposed to feel sorry for this guy? Surely there's a better martyr for the cop haters.
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So much for innocent until proven guilty. These Cop bashing threads are too much!
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:30 AM   #30
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I'm not going to comment on this thread specifically, but cops are morally and ethically compelled to do the right thing, no matter how pissed of they are.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:40 AM   #31
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I'm not going to comment on this thread specifically, but cops are morally and ethically compelled to do the right thing, no matter how pissed of they are.
Are you saying he didn't?


I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the police. How many of us here would be able to resist the urge to go Sgt Stewart on the idiots shouting and screaming at the officers while they are doing their job.

The "kick" is hardly even a kick. I have had worse kicks to the head on many occasions, including this summer.
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Old 09-27-2012, 12:58 PM   #32
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I'm not going to comment on this thread specifically, but cops are morally and ethically compelled to do the right thing, no matter how pissed of they are.
Shouldn't we all be morally compelled to do the right thing? They just have a gun, badge, and more training to deal with the morally challenged.
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Old 09-27-2012, 01:03 PM   #33
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Seriously though - can we get a 'I hate Cops' thread or something so all these isolated videos of Cops being monsters can be contained in one space?

Here's some good cop stories:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/resc...-path-17318188
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-Marshall.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyAksbfKIK0
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ice-department

I know - I know - they're just doing their jobs. This is what they signed up for. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Goddamn whiners - stop acting like d0uchbags and cops won't kick you in the face.

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Old 09-27-2012, 01:14 PM   #34
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Seriously though - can we get a 'I hate Cops' thread or something so all these isolated videos of Cops being monsters can be contained in one space?

Here's some good cop stories:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-shooting.html
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/resc...-path-17318188
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-Marshall.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyAksbfKIK0
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...ice-department

I know - I know - they're just doing their jobs. This is what they signed up for. BLAH BLAH BLAH.

Goddamn whiners - stop acting like d0uchbags and cops won't kick you in the face.
Exactly. Cops don't generally taze/abuse people unless provoked. Given what they endure for the pay they receive, they should get at least one free 'excessive force' allowance per month. There is no better stress release than kicking a fatty in the face.
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