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Old 08-15-2012, 12:16 AM   #21
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Current sign structure design requirements are ridiculous compared to what it was like when Deerfoot was built. Before it was essentially two light standards welded together to the base. Now it's these monster engineered structures you see on Stoney Trail and the like.
When they replaced all the Crowchild ones I couldn't believe how over-engineered they looked compared to the old ones. Now I know why
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Old 08-15-2012, 12:41 AM   #22
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Can you blame the sign? The song had a nice beat.
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Knowing Calgary traffic engineers, they'll probably design an overpass that takes commuters over the sign. Problem fixed.
With a stop light on top
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How many times does it have to flex like that before the structure is permanently compromised? Will it suddenly collapse months later when the weather turns cold?
I'm betting that replacing that structure, along with any others still of that style on Deerfoot, just became a priority for the city transportation department. Hell, you already have to replace part of the sign. May as well do the poles too. Though I imagine those are a custom job that will take some time to produce.
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What is with Calgary turning into Lethbridge lately? Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember Calgary having these kinds of winds all the time even 10 years ago. Now it seems like streets are shutdown due to wind every few weeks.
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I'm betting that replacing that structure, along with any others still of that style on Deerfoot, just became a priority for the city transportation department. Hell, you already have to replace part of the sign. May as well do the poles too. Though I imagine those are a custom job that will take some time to produce.
The sign can rebolted to the brackets with no problems, I imagine. Replacing the structure would be quite expensive, which is why Alberta Transportation didn't do it as part of the sign replacement program they started last year.

If testing shows the structure is still fine, they won't touch it...unless of course, public pressure changes their minds.
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Old 08-15-2012, 08:33 AM   #27
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^^^ Calgary seems to be hit by unusual wind storms alot lately, I agree.

Mind you, our elders walked uphill both ways to school when they were kids, but that has since seemed to magically correct itself - likely due to subtle topographical changes over time. God works in mysterious ways.
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What is with Calgary turning into Lethbridge lately? Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember Calgary having these kinds of winds all the time even 10 years ago. Now it seems like streets are shutdown due to wind every few weeks.
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knowing calgary traffic engineers, they'll probably design a 4 way stop that takes commuters around the sign. Problem fixed.
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Calgary traffic engineers?? I'm sure Deerfoot and Stoney Trail are under provincial control. It would be the province that would have to change the of the signs and pay for it.
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Calgary traffic engineers?? I'm sure Deerfoot and Stoney Trail are under provincial control. It would be the province that would have to change the of the signs and pay for it.
Oh, my bad. I guess Calgary engineers won't be designing an overpass that goes over the sign, afterall. Everyone's comments were in jest.
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What is with Calgary turning into Lethbridge lately? Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember Calgary having these kinds of winds all the time even 10 years ago. Now it seems like streets are shutdown due to wind every few weeks.
In my 30+ years in this city I have noticed lots of weather changes but mostly in the last 10 years. mainly far more late afternoon thunderstorms,warmer evenings and the golf courses open earlier.
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Loving the tunes in the video!
Seriously though, with that song and beat, there's no way the sign couldn't dance.
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actually my # 2 songs for weeks now. bruah.
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In my 30+ years in this city I have noticed lots of weather changes but mostly in the last 10 years. mainly far more late afternoon thunderstorms,warmer evenings and the golf courses open earlier.
In my nearly 40 years, I've noticed people tend to view whatever happened in the last 5 years (crime, weather, economic uncertainty) always seems worse than the things that happened 20 years ago.

Pretty natural though, a windstorm in 1992 isn't something that would stand out.
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I'm betting that replacing that structure, along with any others still of that style on Deerfoot, just became a priority for the city transportation department. Hell, you already have to replace part of the sign. May as well do the poles too. Though I imagine those are a custom job that will take some time to produce.

A bridge structure over a freeway these days goes for somewhere in the range of $200k. Timing can quite often take around 6 months.

As was mentioned above, the province maintains the Deerfoot, but back when I was in Calgary the talks were around the province handing ownership of the Deerfoot back to the City in 2014. I don't know if that's still on track or not, but if it is, I can't see the province spending much money to fix this issue. They would probably look at this particular bridge structure in isolation and ignore the rest of the underdesigned structures on the Deerfoot unless the City wants to start kicking in some money to help pay for the program.
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The city and province are squabbling over that point. The current council is divided on it, with some (Colley-Urquhart leading) wanting to regain control of the road (and do stupid things like reduce speed limits and close accesses) sooner, while others want the province to keep it. Most insist that the province complete upgrades and fixes before handing it back.
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