TrapWire-why is mainstream media ignoreing it?

[jamoro]

Originally Posted by zamler

Assuming that algorithms are perfect is foolhardy, assuming the people in control of above information are above reproach is even more foolish. Even MORE foolish is to assume that everything you do is legal, or considered legal. Actions you take that you consider perfectly fine and reasonable may in fact be used against you.

I agree we cannot always assume the people with the information have the best intentions for us in mind

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Frankly, I'm worried about unintended innocent results.

With something this scale, I agree with Cowperson, if someone had a huge file on me if wonder what's wrong with them. I'm not that interesting (oh my God he woke up went to work, ate pizza for lunch, worked until late, went home checked CP and Facebook then went to bed!).

On a smaller sale, like local police having access to our computers and Internet information, I'd be worried about something like me buying a ring for my girlfriend online, an officer seeing this and thinking "oh hey good for Jon, that's awesome" waiting a few weeks and without thinking telling someone or congratulating us Before I propose.

There really isn't any harm done other than the back pedaling, but c'mon!

As for Person of Interest, meh. There's too many of us to keep that close of a watch on all of us. When it hits the fan, it's kinda nice to be able to easily solve the problem/crime/situation.

Really, is my life any different? Really?


Last thought, surveillance has nothing to do with our ability to vote. This its not, nor will it ever be anti democratic.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Azure

Sounds like something from a TV show.

Oh wait.

I was surprised when I quite liked that show.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by zamler

Assuming that algorithms are perfect is foolhardy, assuming the people in control of above information are above reproach is even more foolish. Even MORE foolish is to assume that everything you do is legal, or considered legal. Actions you take that you consider perfectly fine and reasonable may in fact be used against you.

Well, it gives my boring life an interesting challenge to look forward to then, assuming I survive the first thrust at my back.

Good luck with your paranoia and thank you for fighting the good fight for all of us. Saves us from wasting our own time.

Cowperson

[mykalberta]

Who are these paranoids who think the file is anything larger than criminal record, place of employment, current address, criminal record and Social Security number?

They arent tracking what you buy at Walmart.

Things like this have been done before, should the Federales not monitor large quantity diesel and fertilizer purchases from non farmers ?

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by jamoro

Why not be honest and just tell us what they are doing? Why do they have to hide the fact that they are spying on us behind closed doors? and why are they making files on everyone? Even people who are not suspected terrorists

The NSA and Homeland Security are busy compiling "lists" of people that are most likely to resist the coming totalitarianism in America (see the MIAC report as an example) They use electronic surveillance technology to filter words and monitor websites etc. to make these lists.

Foreign Islamic terrorism was the excuse to install the police state that destroys liberty (Patirot Act, NDAA, DHS, TSA). Now that it's in place, ...it is slowly being turned toward liberty loving Americans.

The Department of Homeland Security has recently purchased 1.2 billion rounds of ammo, much of it hollow point. Hint - hollow point is not typically used for target training. It makes me wonder what they are preparing for....

[Ducay]

What I'm more concerned about is the Mikey/Myk squareoff we're about to have ^^^