Letter from zellers

[Prototype]

I thought the lowest price was the law at Zellers. They should make your daughter pay more than lowest price.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

You certainly do not have to pay, but might be a good lesson for your daughter to earn that money and donate it to kids that actually need some help.

How would that be a good lesson when it comes to shoplifting?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Iginla

How would that be a good lesson when it comes to shoplifting?

A punishment which is associated with the crime - in this case the labour associated with earning the money, which is then sent to a worthwhile organization rather than the Hudson's Bay Corporation.

Actually that is a really good idea in my opinion, it isn't overly raking the kid over the coals but at the same time it does stress the point.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by hockeycop

Really? Laugh at people because they will be unemployed soon by no fault of their own?

The rest of the advice here is pretty good. Don't have to pay, but don't forget to hold your kid accountable!

Remember he is a stupid 16 year old kid with no responsibilities, no mortgage, bills to pay, mouths to feed and obviously no perspective.

At the same time it isn't even the staff members who institute this policy anyway, it is the policy of the corporation.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by saskflames96

Zellers will be dead by March 2013. My advice is to laugh at the people who sent you the letter for being out of a job soon.

Yeah, unemployment is hilarious. There is nothing funnier than mass amounts of people losing their jobs. It'll be great for the rest of society too, once some of these people will then default on payments and/or start collecting EI, further depleting a scarce resource.

[RedMileDJ]

Ok, found it! Take a look at this:

http://www.globaltvcalgary.com/lawye...755/story.html

It's just a scare tactic.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

A punishment which is associated with the crime - in this case the labour associated with earning the money, which is then sent to a worthwhile organization rather than the Hudson's Bay Corporation.

Actually that is a really good idea in my opinion, it isn't overly raking the kid over the coals but at the same time it does stress the point.

Or how about the kid earns that money and buys stuff that he or she needs instead of donating it to other kids. I'm not sure how donating money to other kids is a lesson to not steal.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by First Lady

Lying, yes that's a great role-modelling for your children.

Ha! People lie to their kids all the time, especially when it's for their own good.

[saskflames69]

Originally Posted by hockeycop

Really? Laugh at people because they will be unemployed soon by no fault of their own?

The rest of the advice here is pretty good. Don't have to pay, but don't forget to hold your kid accountable!

Calm down, I wasn't being serious about laughing at them. That would be the biggest dick move of the century.

Point is, in 6 months they'll be done for and you can laugh at their attempt to receive money from you.

And seeing how over priced their stuff is, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually cost them $600 (which they weren't going to get anyway, since nobody visits that awful store anymore)

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Iginla

Or how about the kid earns that money and buys stuff that he or she needs instead of donating it to other kids. I'm not sure how donating money to other kids is a lesson to not steal.

There is a negative ramification for the child associated with the previous theft, that being the labour. As for what the child needs, I am going to doubt that she was stealing a can of beans to feed her family so lets not mistake the terms want and need. The child learns a lesson that crime (shoplifting) has negative ramifications (work/money) while not just going to the coffers of a large corporation (HBC) and benefits the community as a whole (a children's charity).

Are you actually that obtuse that you fail to see the point?

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

There is a negative ramification for the child associated with the previous theft, that being the labour. As for what the child needs, I am going to doubt that she was stealing a can of beans to feed her family so lets not mistake the terms want and need. The child learns a lesson that crime (shoplifting) has negative ramifications (work/money) while not just going to the coffers of a large corporation (HBC) and benefits the community as a whole (a children's charity).

Are you actually that obtuse that you fail to see the point?

There really is not much more for me to add since you guys captured the point of the punishment so well.

For every hour she works to earn the $600 bucks she will remember her mistake, and then when she get's a nice big fat $600 bucks in her hands she will hand it over to someone else to spend on someone else.

She will work hard and learn the value of donating while at the same time remembering how dumb it was to shoplift.

[Sr. Mints]

Originally Posted by First Lady

Lying, yes that's a great role-modelling for your children.

I don't know . . . When you finally pieced together that Santa Claus and your parents use the same wrapping paper year after year, did you adopt a life of drugs and crime?

[firebug]

Originally Posted by squiggs96

Yeah, unemployment is hilarious. There is nothing funnier than mass amounts of people losing their jobs. It'll be great for the rest of society too, once some of these people will then default on payments and/or start collecting EI, further depleting a scarce resource.

This will be a big problem. Apparently Target only employs robots.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Sr. Mints

I don't know . . . When you finally pieced together that Santa Claus and your parents use the same wrapping paper year after year, did you adopt a life of drugs and crime?

What on Earth are you talking about? What does the fact my parents and Santa both purchase discount wrapping paper at Walmart have to do with anything?

[Sr. Mints]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

What on Earth are you talking about? What does the fact my parents and Santa both purchase discount wrapping paper at Walmart have to do with anything?

Merely a coincidence.

I have it on good authority--my parents--that Walmart opened its first location in Iqaluit, North Pole, Alaska in the 1950s. So that explains that.

[MRCboicgy]

[BloodFetish]

If I were you I'd pay it....


...in Canadian Tire money.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by firebug

This will be a big problem. Apparently Target only employs robots.

Well they don't employ all of the Zellers people. At least 27,300 former Zellers employees are out of a job now.

http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...5-billion-deal

Of the 220 Zellers leaseholds originally purchased in 2011, Target kept 189. It transferred 45 of the 189 to other retailers, including 39 to Walmart. In July, HBC announced that it would be closing its remaining 85 stores.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

This is not legal advice, which I can't give and wouldn't on the Internet anyway.... But the fact is, unless you personally stole something from them they don't have a leg to stand on. Even then, it wouldn't be worth it to sue you over 600 dollars, but since it was your daughter, and not you, who did the shoplifting, I would not be overly concerned if I were you. I mean, if you want to you can phone them and laugh.... And then tell them if they would enjoy being laughed at some more they should feel free to meet you in court, where you and a guy in a robe will both laugh at them for a full half hour....

But I would just throw it away.