3 Incidents at Rockyview Hospital in 2 weeks...

[Dion]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

Who needs 'em? We have Dion to volunteer! He knows what to do and never makes a mistake.

I'm God and I ask that you worship me

[BlackRedGold25]

Originally Posted by Dion

The CEO on Global News said these patients are not locked up.

Well they are patients, not prisoners.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by BlackRedGold25

Well they are patients, not prisoners.

You missed the whole concept on why some demetia patients are kept in secure wards.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

2 people that were in the hospital died of preventable causes unrelated to the reason they were admitted into the hospital. I don't think its completely unreasonable to jump to the conclusion that someone along the chain was negligent and should no longer receive a wage to care for dementia patients.

I wouldn't say that someone with dementia wandering away is unrelated to the reason that they were admitted - in fact it is likely closely associated with the reason that they were admitted. As for the specifics of the case no one at the current time can really go into any details about them, was the guy on a pass? Did he run away from the program? Did they look for the guy? Who knows but the hospital is literally steps away from the reservoir so it isn't inconceivable that someone could run away due to confusion, fall down the hill into the water and drown.

As for choking on food most meals in mental health units are done in community settings such as large dining areas as per Milieu Therapy so I am thinking that there may be more information to come out at least before we start calling some people to be fired.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by Sliver

How about we find out what happened and why before going full ######.

Usually I bite my tongue when you speak, but:

That's a bold statement, coming from you.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Dion

You missed the whole concept on why some demetia patients are kept in secure wards.

Then use proper phrases, they are kept on a secure unit. It doesn't show them any dignity as people to say that they are locked up.

The results may be the same in that they are not able to leave, the rationales are completely different as to why though. Patients are kept on a secure mental health unit, prisoners are locked up.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

Usually I bite my tongue when you speak, but:

That's a bold statement, coming from you.

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Sliver

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I think he is trying to call you a ######.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I think he is trying to call you a ######.

I think you might be right.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

Then use proper phrases, they are kept on a secure unit. It doesn't show them any dignity as people to say that they are locked up.

The results may be the same in that they are not able to leave, the rationales are completely different as to why though. Patients are kept on a secure mental health unit, prisoners are locked up.

To be fair I said this in an earlier post " I've volunteered in a number of LTC facilities where magnetic doors are installed in certains wings of the unit to prevent demtia people from walking away". That being said your explanation better describes the situation - thank you

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Dion

Those deaths were prevetable because the proper measures weren't taken. I've volunteered in a number of LTC facilities where magnetic doors are installed in certains wings of the unit to prevent demtia people from walking away.

Good thing you mentioned it.

Those idiots who work for the hospital probably hadn't thought of it yet, so nothing like that was in place.

In fact, I would wager that at a facility run with such inefficiencies as the Rockyview, they likely house them by stacking rolls of quarters and loonies on top of each other in the middle of the parking lot. The rely on the principle that if a dementia patient can't make change for $20, then they can't get out into the wild.

[Dion]

Two patients who went missing from the Rockyview Hospital have been found but critics are now putting the spotlight on the bigger issue of dementia care.

Robert Johnson, 71, went missing from the Rockyview Hospital about 5:30 p.m. on Tuesday.

Johnson suffers from dementia and was found downtown on Wednesday afternoon and returned to the hospital.

Another patient also wandered away from the care facility on Wednesday morning.

http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/rockyview-...#ixzz22MICGHhL

[4X4]

Maybe this is one person's fault. Or maybe it's a sign of a bigger problem. Under staffing? Under training? I know I'm a bit jaded with the state of the Alberta Health Care system. But, you know, we better fire someone, just to make sure.

[GreatWhiteEbola]

Outrage!!

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Mean Mr. Mustard

I think he is trying to call you a ######.

I don't agree, but this made me throw up my water.

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Maybe this is one person's fault. Or maybe it's a sign of a bigger problem. Under staffing? Under training? I know I'm a bit jaded with the state of the Alberta Health Care system. But, you know, we better fire someone, just to make sure.

"Fire someone" doesn't mean fire a nurse necessarily. Someone put the policies, training procedures, security measures, staffing levels...

Too many free rides on this kind of thing. This is two fatalities. Two people's family members. If you are in health care and responsible for preventable deaths? See yah.