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GP_Matt · 07-30-2012, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by PsnaP

I highly doubt this will come to Canada anytime soon... do they know how much it will cost to bring a fibre to your house?? Most new communities in Calgary and surrounding areas have FTTH already, so unless they are leasing those lines, I dont see how else they will bring a strand of glass to your house that is cost effective.

I have fibre coming into my house. New community and Telus for the win!
We are currently having fibre run to our office though and it is going to be incredibly expensive. (I heard $100000 for the install, but that sounds unbelievably high)

Rathji · 07-30-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GP_Matt

I have fibre coming into my house. New community and Telus for the win!
We are currently having fibre run to our office though and it is going to be incredibly expensive. (I heard $100000 for the install, but that sounds unbelievably high)

I would believe it.

A couple years ago, we inquired about fiber at both of our locations. One was pretty cheap as the fiber was already on the block but the other was north of $50k.

sclitheroe · 07-30-2012, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GP_Matt

I have fibre coming into my house. New community and Telus for the win!
We are currently having fibre run to our office though and it is going to be incredibly expensive. (I heard $100000 for the install, but that sounds unbelievably high)

What kinds of speeds is Telus offering for fibre connected homes?

PsnaP · 07-30-2012, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GP_Matt

I have fibre coming into my house. New community and Telus for the win!
We are currently having fibre run to our office though and it is going to be incredibly expensive. (I heard $100000 for the install, but that sounds unbelievably high)

No, that sounds about right. Depending on how much fibre and which service is being offered. Not to mention SLAs, redundancy, equipment blah blah....

mykalberta · 07-31-2012, 12:56 PM

Its the same type of thing if you have an office outside their ADSL range and you need trenching done to upgrade from Frame Relay. Telus charges the customer for the trenching and then other customers can then connect on for much cheaper.

Street Pharmacist · 08-01-2012, 12:24 AM

For someone who is not too tech savvy, how big is the fiber advantage?

Mass_nerder · 08-01-2012, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

For someone who is not too tech savvy, how big is the fiber advantage?

I'm not tech savvy, but I have bell fibreop (apparently canada's only 100% fibre optic network)...i apparently get up to 250mbps downloads, but to be honest, I don't really notice much difference between what I have now, and the cable internet I had in calgary through shaw.

Bobblehead · 08-01-2012, 11:25 AM

Having that speed on your end is one thing.
Whether all the steps between you and the service you are accessing the data can can utilize the speed is something else.

sclitheroe · 08-01-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Having that speed on your end is one thing.
Whether all the steps between you and the service you are accessing the data can can utilize the speed is something else.

True, but having fibre future-proofs you quite a bit for bandwidth requirements in the future.

Street Pharmacist · 08-01-2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sclitheroe

True, but having fibre future-proofs you quite a bit for bandwidth requirements in the future.

So let's say in a perfect world all steps have fibre-optics, how fast would it be to my Shaw connection? And I don't really know what bit rates are good.

sclitheroe · 08-01-2012, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

So let's say in a perfect world all steps have fibre-optics, how fast would it be to my Shaw connection? And I don't really know what bit rates are good.

In simplest terms, Shaw's fastest connection, at 250 megabits per second downstream, is 0.25 gigabits. GPON fibre, which is what I think most ISP's in North America are rolling out, is rated for up to 2.5 gigabits, so theoretically it's 10x faster.

I say theoretically because both cable and fibre internet access have various kinds of overhead that decrease what you'd actually see at your PC, as well as their own unique scalability attributes that affect throughput as overall load increases, but in simple terms fibre is 10x faster.

Azure · 08-01-2012, 05:33 PM

And Google Fiber is 10x more value than anything else being offered in the US right now.

sclitheroe · 08-01-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

And Google Fiber is 10x more value than anything else being offered in the US right now.

Indeed. Never mind the gigabit, the lifetime connection for a one-time fee I could see being extremely important for lower income families, to the point where municipalities might even subsidize, or it could become a tax write-off, it if this kind of rollout catches on.

Azure · 08-02-2012, 04:03 PM

Someone said the other day it would cost about $2,000/family for Google to hook up fiber for a house.

If they play their cards right, it could be a seriously profitable business for them. They will probably make $3 billion in profit this next quarter.

GP_Matt · 08-06-2012, 12:31 PM

My speed is listed at 25 Mbps. I have no real complaints with the speed, even when watching multiple HD channels off of the same line while surfing or downloading. ( I am pretty sure that the 25 Mbps is in addition to the three HD feeds.)
As far as I know though, the speed is throttled by Telus right now and they have the ability to scale it up as it becomes necessary, likely with a scaled up price at some point.

Running speedtest.net at the office I am showing 22 Mbps up and 4 Mbps down with our new Fibre line. The office is through Shaw though, not Telus. I will test at home later to see how Telus compares.

Azure · 08-06-2012, 09:40 PM

They're obviously throttling it. Laying in fiber to all the homes makes sense for Telus, even if it does cost a bit more upfront for them. In the long run it gives them the infrastructure to offer a lot more services like VOIP, multiple HD feeds, and very fast internet, without creating so much backlog.

sclitheroe · 08-06-2012, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Azure

They're obviously throttling it. Laying in fiber to all the homes makes sense for Telus, even if it does cost a bit more upfront for them. In the long run it gives them the infrastructure to offer a lot more services like VOIP, multiple HD feeds, and very fast internet, without creating so much backlog.

I believe it's actually a city requirement for all new homes (not that Telus wouldn't want to do it)

Azure · 08-06-2012, 09:57 PM

Is the $2,000/home crazy? I read somewhere that was the supposed cost of Google Fiber.

flamesfan6 · 08-06-2012, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GP_Matt

My speed is listed at 25 Mbps. I have no real complaints with the speed, even when watching multiple HD channels off of the same line while surfing or downloading. ( I am pretty sure that the 25 Mbps is in addition to the three HD feeds.)
As far as I know though, the speed is throttled by Telus right now and they have the ability to scale it up as it becomes necessary, likely with a scaled up price at some point.

Running speedtest.net at the office I am showing 22 Mbps up and 4 Mbps down with our new Fibre line. The office is through Shaw though, not Telus. I will test at home later to see how Telus compares.

When you use your HD chanels, it actually will cut down on your speed of the internet. I have about 24-26 Mbps on speedtest when not watching any TV, but when I have 3 streams going it cuts down to 16-19 Mbps