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Old 07-02-2012, 10:33 PM   #21
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Didnt the July 1 rule kick in this year? I cant remember what it entailed but heard of something being implemeted.
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Old 07-03-2012, 11:03 AM   #23
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Didnt the July 1 rule kick in this year? I cant remember what it entailed but heard of something being implemeted.
Yup, the 0.08 part of it kicked in meaning that your licence is suspended until your court case is resolved.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:06 PM   #25
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Yup, the 0.08 part of it kicked in meaning that your licence is suspended until your court case is resolved.
Just out of curiosity, how does that work legally? Like how are they able to justify keeping your licence until your guilty/innocent? Do they claim that you could be a risk to the public with your licence, so they have to keep you off the streets until the completion of trial, the way they keep dangerous offenders in jail until their trial?

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Old 07-03-2012, 12:33 PM   #26
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Just out of curiosity, how does that work legally? Like how are they able to justify keeping your licence until your guilty/innocent? Do they claim that you could be a risk to the public with your licence, so they have to keep you off the streets until the completion of trial, the way they keep dangerous offenders in jail until their trial?
I think its along those lines. The simple fact you've been charged with it is obvious enough for them to suspend your licence until the court case is over. I guess your analogy is kind of valid, in the sense people can be remanded before they are found innocent/guilty and that seems to fly quite often (though obviously the charges are much more "heinous" in nature usually).

That being said, I think the big thing the province wants to push, atleast with the >0.08 legislation, is that driving is a privilege, not a right, and ultimately they hold all the cards with it. Licencing is a provincial thing and they hold all the cards for it.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:51 PM   #27
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I think its along those lines. The simple fact you've been charged with it is obvious enough for them to suspend your licence until the court case is over. I guess your analogy is kind of valid, in the sense people can be remanded before they are found innocent/guilty and that seems to fly quite often (though obviously the charges are much more "heinous" in nature usually).

That being said, I think the big thing the province wants to push, atleast with the >0.08 legislation, is that driving is a privilege, not a right, and ultimately they hold all the cards with it. Licencing is a provincial thing and they hold all the cards for it.

Actually, that's a good point that I hadn't thought of in all my blind hatred of this new legistlation. I guess, technically they're not taking away your right to be free in society until proven guilty, like they would be if they locked you up. They're taking away your ability to drive until your trial is over, which as you stated, isn't so much a right as it is a privalege.

The only thing that still kind of bothers me, though, would be the way they will handle the .05 legislation. As they will still be technically "fining" you, by impounding your vehicle, without the right to fight it.

I know they can probably get away with not calling it a fine, but the reality is, if you're car is impounded, you have to pay to have to it freed, or you lose your vehicle, and therefore you've been forced to pay money at the descretion of the officer, which should be classiffied as a fine, imo.
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