Fracking Tied to Unusual Rise in Earthquakes in U.S.

[HELPNEEDED]

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[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

There are two things about this article that really piss me off.

1) The headline states that the earthquakes are linked to Fracing, but the article is about disposal wells, which are two totally different operations. They say they're linked to fracing because they're disposing of frac fluid. How exactly is that a connection? That's like saying nachos are linked to drunk driving because a lot of bars serve nachos.

I think another thing that needs to be clarified is that the disposal wells are not just used for the frac(k) fluid. It's used by other industries in the area as well, including ag. More likely the people who are at fault are the people operating the disposal wells, who are making an easy buck by overloading their wells.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

There are two things about this article that really piss me off.

1) The headline states that the earthquakes are linked to Fracing, but the article is about disposal wells, which are two totally different operations. They say they're linked to fracing because they're disposing of frac fluid. How exactly is that a connection? That's like saying nachos are linked to drunk driving because a lot of bars serve nachos.

No, it's not like that.

Without fracing there would be no frac fluid to dispose of. One necessitates the other. There is no logical parallel in your nachos/drunk driving example.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by HELPNEEDED

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[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

No, it's not like that.

Without fracing there would be no frac fluid to dispose of. One necessitates the other. There is no logical parallel in your nachos/drunk driving example.

Sure there is. Those disposal wells would certainly exist without the frac fluid that needs to be disposed of.
Disposal wells have been and will be used for a lot more than just frac fluid.

Bars and drunk driving would still exist without nachos.
Disposal wells would still exist without fracing.

[normtwofinger]

Frack off eh!

[HPLovecraft]

Originally Posted by fotze

He is absoultey right. Disposal wells have pretty much zero to do with fracking. If frac fluid was disposed of in a disposal well, which it would probably not be, the volume would be like a thimble of water dumped into lake Ontario.

Why not? I admit I don't know much about fracking, so this is a legit question. In the article the state of Ohio admits to this very thing:

Last month, Ohio officials concluded that earthquakes there last year probably were caused by wastewater from hydraulic fracturing for natural gas injected into a disposal well.

[icarus]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

2) If you're going to write an article about a subject, at least get the lingo correct.
NO ONE in the undustry calls it "Fracking" becasue we all know that there is no "k" in "Fracturing"

'Bivouacking', 'shellacking', and 'medevacking' are all examples of words that gain a 'k' when transformed into a present participle form of the verb. Of course 'fracking' is just an abbreviated form so there really aren't any rules for it.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by icarus

'Bivouacking', 'shellacking', and 'medevacking' are all examples of words that gain a 'k' when transformed into a present participle form of the verb. Of course 'fracking' is just an abbreviated form so there really aren't any rules for it.

Keep in mind BBS is an engineer.......I'm surprised he can spell his name properly.

[rubecube]

Well this thread certainly didn't deliver as I had hoped.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well this thread certainly didn't deliver as I had hoped.

Well, frac off.

Some of the newish waterless fracing technologies are getting a lot of press and it will be interesting to see the results as those wells in the Marcellus, Barnett and Utica shales start to come off confidential.

[Bill Bumface]

Oil sands... err tar sands = evil
Off shore drilling = evil
Pipelines = evil
Natural gas, due to Frakkkking = evil

Luckily all of the people criticizing these practices are close to an energy technology breakthrough, power plants that harness the energy of holding hands and playing acoustic guitar.

[red sky]

And Hollywood gets a hold of it and turns it all Hollywood I am sure. Thanks Matt Damon.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...n_1408501.html

[Mr.Coffee]

the idea that fracing causes earthquakes is hilarious. Humans give themselves way too much credit.

Just conceptually, and I am by no means a scientist or have any real relevant experience in the field of science, but from what I remember in grade 4 or 8 or whatever...

earthquakes are caused by shifting tectonic plates. How in the blue hell would fracing cause tectonic plates to move? Tectonic plates are part of the earth's crust and upper mantle. Nobody drills remotely close to this depth and even if they did they sure as hell wouldn't frac down there.

Logically it just doesn't even make sense to me.

[SebC]

^ Again, the problem is that the author has decided that all seismic events are earthquakes, when some of them are not.