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Old 06-05-2012, 07:23 PM   #21
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Crazy thing is that Khan could be implemented into the deviated timeline easily since he was put into hyper-sleep (?) in (according to the 1960s Star Trek universe) the mid 1990s.

If this franchise continues past the second or third movie, then I almost guarantee Khan shows up.
I don't care how 'easily' he could show up or be implemented. The whole point of the this JJverse thing was to free NuTrek from the confines of Canon, so why just retread old films and tv episodes? It's lazy writing.


Is the real Star Trek II best picture worthy? No, but it has a depth that no other Trek Movie has even come close to. Any version of Khan in the JJverse would be cheap imitation filled with Uhura bra shots and lens flares.
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It's amazing how after all the hype the JJ Abrams Star Trek is a run of the mile Trek story.

Seriously, eject the core...? Haven't seen that before.
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Here is the actual trailer.
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It's amazing how after all the hype the JJ Abrams Star Trek is a run of the mile Trek story.

Seriously, eject the core...? Haven't seen that before.
You're freaking mental. Even if it is the Jverse, that is a kick-ass take of an origin story for one of the most beloved franchises of all time. The core ejection was one of many shout-outs/tributes/"puns" throughout the movie.

Was it the greatest movie ever? No. Hell no, but it brought Star Trek back from the dead in a big way. How many times in your life do you get to feel like you're ten years old again for a couple hours? Star Trek (TNG especially) was such a huge part of my childhood, and to get to go for one more ride on the Enterprise after all that time really made my day. I can't wait for the next one no matter what they do.
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But NuTrek isn't real Star Trek. I could never see JJ et al doing 'City on the Edge of Forever', 'Tapestry', 'Family', 'Duet' or 'In The Pale Moonlight'.


But I digress.
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I liked the Star Trek movie.

The hype was just hilarious though, it was a run of the mile story, with lots of lens flares.
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But NuTrek isn't real Star Trek. I could never see JJ et al doing 'City on the Edge of Forever', 'Tapestry', 'Family', 'Duet' or 'In The Pale Moonlight'.


But I digress.
And up until now, nobody could/would do what he's doing. It's different while being the same, fresh but also traditional in it's own way. I like it.

Those were awesome episodes though.
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I liked the Star Trek movie.

The hype was just hilarious though, it was a run of the mile story, with lots of lens flares.
Yeah, but I really loved the lens flares. Again, something new and I actually really thought it helped give the movie a unique look/feel.
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One or two lens flares are neat.

In Serenity it was a neat natural looking thing Joss Wheadon used effectively.

In Star Trek JJ Abrams went overboard with it, used it any chance he got, even he admits he went crazy. In some interviews Abrams seems almost embarrassed about the lens flares when it's mentioned.
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I have my doubts that anyone can be as chilling of a villian as RM's Khan, even in the movie you felt a certain amount of sympathy for the guy, and the question was always If i was put in the same spot would I become like Khan

It would be logical for Star Trek to remake Space Seed, but I don't know how they could make a different story line.

"We offered the world order"



I think the next villian is going to be Harry Mudd, I hope its not the Klingons, we've been hit to hard by the Klingons.

I think a remake of the Rumulan episode where they chased the cloaked ship, but there's no potential for anything but in ship environments.
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You are telling me that no one liked the plasma, psychedelic jizz cloud from The Motion Picture? Worst movie villain ever (well not really, but it's up there).
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Khan will go down as one of the best pop culture villains ever.
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The guy who composed the theme to Taxi does Star Trek: The Motion Picture. I'm so confused.



And before they settled on just recycling the Motion Picture themesong for TNG, this was actually the original alternate theme the producers were mulling over. Pretty awfully generic.


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Old 06-05-2012, 10:42 PM   #35
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You are telling me that no one liked the plasma, psychedelic jizz cloud from The Motion Picture? Worst movie villain ever (well not really, but it's up there).
I really liked that movie, I think it was too smart for the average movie goer of the time.

I thought that V'ger was a very good villain.
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Sneak at (what could be) a Klingon :

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I really liked that movie, I think it was too smart for the average movie goer of the time.

I thought that V'ger was a very good villain.
100% agree. That movie has aged incredibly well, and the production quality was far better than any of the other original cast pictures. It had a very 2001 sorta vibe to it right down to the plot. I think people were expecting more of a space opera like Star Wars. I believed they went a little to science nerd for the average joe. I really gained a new appreciation for the movie after watching it for the first time in about a decade just a few months ago. It still looks amazing, and has a very dark vibe to it.
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Sneak at (what could be) a Klingon :

That's just a picture from the cut scenes in the first movie where they did have Klingons at the prison camp that whats his face was held at for 20 years.
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I really liked that movie, I think it was too smart for the average movie goer of the time.

I thought that V'ger was a very good villain.
I think another problem people have with TMP is the fact that it is more about Decker than it is about the TOS cast.
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I know Mudd was more of a comical foe, but I think a darker, more nefarious trickster verison of him would be good.

Aside from that, I don't see any reason why some Next Generation content couldn't be fodder. A Q-continuum tie-in would be nice.
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