Looking to Adopt a Dog

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by flambers

My family and myself are a foster home for one of the local adoption groups... If one of the applicates told us they were going to debark the dog.... That person would be rejected every time.

Sure there are bad owners.... debarking the dog only solves a few of the problems... There probably are other issues as well....

I think somebody wanting to debark a dog is a sign of a responsible owner, not somebody that should be turned away. Owning a dog doesn't allow you to surrender your neighbours' right to live in peace and quiet. All dogs bark, no matter how well trained. They bark to be let inside, they bark if they hear a noise, they bark if they see/smell another dog, etc. Even a well-trained dog barks thousands of times per year. It's unacceptable.

Per the City bylaw, a dog must not bark, howl or disturb anyone. Debarking seems like the best way to maintain compliance with the bylaw.

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Actually, it's not 100% foolproof. The dog's vocal chords can grow back over time. Plus, the dog will still bark after it's been "debarked", it's actually almost more annoying.

I'd agree it's more annoying close up, but at least then it's only the owners' problem instead of the whole neighbourhood's. As for the vocal chords growing back, you could probably just bring the dog back for a second operation.

[Coach]

Thanks for the info everyone! A few responses..

I have talked with my roommates and both understand that it will be MY dog and they are welcome to play with it in exchange for helping take care of it. My roommates and I are all close friends so I don't forsee any issues in that regard.

There are a lot of parks around me ( one within a 30 second walk and an offleash not 5 min away) so I don't think there will be a problem with getting the pup exercise. And I do have a small front yard for the quick trips.

I have put in applications at most shelters/etc... I was just inquring here to see if anyone had puppies or knew of someone that needed to get rid of one. But thank you all for the info!

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I think somebody wanting to mute a person is a sign of a responsible owner, not somebody that should be turned away. Owning a person doesn't allow you to surrender your neighbours' right to live in peace and quiet. All people make noise, no matter how well trained. They knock to be let inside, they scream if they hear a noise, they yell if they see/smell another person, etc. Even a well-trained person yells/screams/drops s***/ makes some form of loud noise thousands of times per year. It's unacceptable.

Just want to try something...

I know plenty of dogs that make much less noise than the average person.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I think somebody wanting to debark a dog is a sign of a responsible owner, not somebody that should be turned away.

Owning a dog doesn't allow you to surrender your neighbours' right to live in peace and quiet.

All dogs bark, no matter how well trained. They bark to be let inside, they bark if they hear a noise, they bark if they see/smell another dog, etc. Even a well-trained dog barks thousands of times per year. It's unacceptable.

Per the City bylaw, a dog must not bark, howl or disturb anyone.


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Yes, there is City bylaw's on having a dog... (Buy a license, don't let it bite, have it on a leash and the dog must not bark... pick up the poop at the off leash areas).

As for Debarking being the best solution.... totally disagree. Adoption agencies would stress to train the dog properly.

If the owner intends to leave the dog outside (all of the time) that is a red flag if you live in the City....

[Muffins]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I was just inquring here to see if anyone had puppies or knew of someone that needed to get rid of one. But thank you all for the info!

I've got a 15 year old blind/deaf/diabetic dog that I would be glad to give to ya

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Just want to try something...

I know plenty of dogs that make much less noise than the average person.

It's legal for a human to make noise. Not so for a dog .

I'll cut it out for your thread, though, MattyC. Sorry for the derail.

[REDVAN]

Don't debark your dog. Jesus F'ing Christ. The amount of times I have had to put up with annoying children, because irresponsible people are allowed to breed, far outnumbers the times I've had problems with a dog's behavior or barking.

You know who complains about barking? My elderly neighbour, who is 87, who doesn't know that I'm not her grandson, and doesn't realize that NO DOGS ARE OUT BARKING AT 3AM. And anyone who complains about a bark or two must be up to no good. If my dog barks, it's because you deserve it.

As for MattyC- If you are willing to adopt, go for it! Amazing. I will adopt my next dog. Preferably, by then, I will live close to DESS.

If you haven't had a pet before, you're in for a shock. I got my dog about 3 years ago, and after only a few months I could not imagine life without her. I am not looking forward to her getting old, but you don't get a dog for the good times, you get a dog for all times. You get a dog until the end of life- yours of theirs.

[red sky]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Thanks for the info everyone! A few responses..

I have talked with my roommates and both understand that it will be MY dog and they are welcome to play with it in exchange for helping take care of it. My roommates and I are all close friends so I don't forsee any issues in that regard.

There are a lot of parks around me ( one within a 30 second walk and an offleash not 5 min away) so I don't think there will be a problem with getting the pup exercise. And I do have a small front yard for the quick trips.

I have put in applications at most shelters/etc... I was just inquring here to see if anyone had puppies or knew of someone that needed to get rid of one. But thank you all for the info!

If you are getting a puppy look into pet insurance for the first year at least.

[KTrain]

Are you able to "borrow" a friend's dog for a short period of time to see if this is the right fit for you? It'll help you get an idea of how much of your time you'll need to give the dog and if it fits into your lifestyle. Your friends may be all over it now but interest in other people's pets dwindles quickly.

Also, a small front yard doesn't seem like an ideal situation for you or your neighbours. I know my neighbours used to let their dogs crap on the front lawn and it was pretty disgusting if they didn't take care of it right away. The backyard is different because it's out-of-sight but unless you're picking up the crap right away it will piss of your neighbours. Think about what you'll do when it's -30 and you're picking up crap on your front lawn.

[afc wimbledon]

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[Coach]

Originally Posted by KTrain

Are you able to "borrow" a friend's dog for a short period of time to see if this is the right fit for you? It'll help you get an idea of how much of your time you'll need to give the dog and if it fits into your lifestyle. Your friends may be all over it now but interest in other people's pets dwindles quickly.

Also, a small front yard doesn't seem like an ideal situation for you or your neighbours. I know my neighbours used to let their dogs crap on the front lawn and it was pretty disgusting if they didn't take care of it right away. The backyard is different because it's out-of-sight but unless you're picking up the crap right away it will piss of your neighbours. Think about what you'll do when it's -30 and you're picking up crap on your front lawn.

The only time it would be crapping in my yard is if for some reason I didn't have time to walk it 30 seconds to the park.

I have had dogs stay at our house before and its been fine. I'm not too worried.

[Regulator75]

I hope Sliver doesn't raise his children with his ignorance and hatred towards dogs.

That's even worse than raising them a Canucks fan...

[MarchHare]

Do you have a properly fenced yard? Parks close by are great for exercise but you will also need to let the dog out to do his business several times a day. A fenced yard is a must for the responsible dog owner.

Yeah no.

I live in a Beltline condo with no fenced yard. There are six dog owners in my building of ~30 units. All of them are responsible.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

I hope Sliver doesn't raise his children with his ignorance and hatred towards dogs.

That's even worse than raising them a Canucks fan...

I have a progressive, enlightened view on dogs. Thankfully, my kids share this worldview. You should see their looks of disgust when dogs bark! It's so cute on little 4 and 6 year olds.

[REDVAN]

Silver must have cats. That is the only explanation.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I have a progressive, enlightened view on dogs. Thankfully, my kids share this worldview. You should see their looks of disgust when dogs bark! It's so cute on little 4 and 6 year olds.

Would you object to the police using a dog to look for your children if they went missing?

[jar_e]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I think somebody wanting to debark a dog is a sign of a responsible owner, not somebody that should be turned away. Owning a dog doesn't allow you to surrender your neighbours' right to live in peace and quiet. All dogs bark, no matter how well trained. They bark to be let inside, they bark if they hear a noise, they bark if they see/smell another dog, etc. Even a well-trained dog barks thousands of times per year. It's unacceptable.

Per the City bylaw, a dog must not bark, howl or disturb anyone. Debarking seems like the best way to maintain compliance with the bylaw.



I'd agree it's more annoying close up, but at least then it's only the owners' problem instead of the whole neighbourhood's. As for the vocal chords growing back, you could probably just bring the dog back for a second operation.

In regards to bylaws, there's also a noise bylaw that is 24/7 a day and for any noise that disturbs another person. That includes human. So if you're neighbour thinks you talk too loud, it can be a ticket.

You need to remember there is still a thread of realism with these bylaws, its not like every time your dog barks, your getting a ticket. The same way you wouldn't get a ticket for talking too loudly at 1 in the afternoon.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Would you object to the police using a dog to look for your children if they went missing?

I've never had a problem with working dogs.

But back to the OP...what's your budget on this Matty? Are you thinking a rescue is the best or are you considering a purebred from a breeder?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I've never had a problem with working dogs.

But back to the OP...what's your budget on this Matty? Are you thinking a rescue is the best or are you considering a purebred from a breeder?

Rescue for sure. Its not necessarily a budget thing as it seems most rescue dogs cost about the same as buying one once all is said and done.

Just seems useless not to take in one that needs a home versus one from a breeder.

[Sliver]

Yeah that's cool. I bought a purebred Devon Rex cat once and it was kind of cool having a "different" cat, but at the end of the day it's just a cat so it was probably a waste of money. May as well keep it in your pocket.