05-02-2012, 04:16 PM
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#21
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Originally Posted by REDVAN
THIS is a Darwin moment.
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Not really. To be a "Darwin moment" he would have to remove himself from the gene pool. He is just beat up a bit. He can still reproduce, if he hasn't already, and drunken stupidity will live on.
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05-02-2012, 05:54 PM
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#22
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I believe in the Jays.
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I find it pretty hard to blame the cabby. When they start kicking his car and even trying to open his door, he can only assume that he is in for a world of hurt if they get their hands on him. My initial reaction was that he should have stopped after he hit somebody, but after watching the video, if he would have stopped then he probably would have ended up in the hospital, or worse.
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05-02-2012, 06:11 PM
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#23
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Originally Posted by REDVAN
Also, is his windsheild smashed in by the stomping?
If so, he might not have seen the guy in front of him. Just sayin...
If he did see the guy though, this is terrible, and the cabbie should be in jail for life.
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I dunno.
If you have half a dozen crazed, lunatic drunks, clawing at your doors like rabid animals trying to get at you, that have made clear indication they are planning on delivering a violent message, I don't think there is a court that would hold this guy responsible.
I think the video in this case will help the driver, not hurt him. As gory as this is, I cannot have sympathy for a guy who lost a game of "fistey/cabbie".
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05-02-2012, 06:17 PM
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#24
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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It seems like it is open season on cab drivers these days. A bad reflection on our society, still I can't see the cabby getting away with this either. Wasn't there a cabby who ran over and killed a passenger under similar circumstances in Calgary. The cabby fled back to Africa.
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05-02-2012, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Firstly, I think it goes beyond one guy is at fault, or both guys are at fault. Put yourself in the cabbie's position. These few guys are destroying his cab, he can certainly flee the scene, but he'll lose any chance he has at the guys being caught for their actions. All the while, he's probably fuming at this happening, while probably trying to speak his mind as well. The drunk idiots are picking on him simply because they can. He's stinking around, temper fuming, they're taking advantage, escalating the situation, cabbie's blood is boiling because they are taking advantage, and he can't do anything, then all of a sudden, another idiot jumps on his windshield, hell boils over and he runs over the main fool. I know society can't have vigilantes, but I totally understand the cabbie's position. I do think he targeted the guy who got run over, simply because it's quite a coincidence that he was also the main agitator. Who knows what he told prosecutors during his interrogation. I can't say I wouldn't have reacted the same way. The jackass who got run over was lucky he was run over top to bottom as opposed to sideways across his stomach or chest, or he'd definitely be dead or a vegetable at the very least.
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05-02-2012, 07:35 PM
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Bluntly honest confession - I laughed
What a bunch of idiots....
I hope the cab driver doesn't get jail time or anything......to me it looked like he was being assaulted/threatened.
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05-02-2012, 11:54 PM
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Both parties are guilty. The cab driver will get what is coming to him. I just hope they don't let the initial aggressors off lightly.
I don't feel bad for the 23 year old. Unfortunately for him he had to take the a tough path in learning to show respect. I feel no sympathy for people that get aggressive when they drink.
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05-02-2012, 11:58 PM
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#29
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Calgary
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I still say that if the window was smashed, then the cabbie didn't see the guy, and should not be held at any fault.
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05-03-2012, 12:01 AM
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He knew he hit a guy and he still ran. If he stops and then the guys buddies come after him I would've given him a break.
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05-03-2012, 12:02 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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It sure sounds to me like the cabbie didn't start anything and was the victim. He didn't necessarily make the best choices but I believe he would get away with, and probably justifiably so, a self-defense type deal.
The other idiots should all be charged including noggin-runned-over boy. Glad he'll be (at least relatively) ok but I don't have a lot of sympathy for him.
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05-03-2012, 07:00 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
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While I agree the drunks were certainly responsible for a lot of this; the one thing I keep looking at is the cabbie had a few opportunities to leave the scene prior to running over the one guy. His cab had already been attacked so it was no longer a matter of a few dollars. That might be what does him in- that he could have just left but chose to move back towards the group.
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05-03-2012, 08:01 AM
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#33
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Originally Posted by ken0042
While I agree the drunks were certainly responsible for a lot of this; the one thing I keep looking at is the cabbie had a few opportunities to leave the scene prior to running over the one guy. His cab had already been attacked so it was no longer a matter of a few dollars. That might be what does him in- that he could have just left but chose to move back towards the group.
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That's what I saw too, that's what makes it so confusing.
I await the trial cause I have no idea. And I only await it because my animal soul requires understanding when probably there is none.
It's just messed up both sides and all ways round. A sad day for humanity in general.
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05-03-2012, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Daradon
That's what I saw too, that's what makes it so confusing.
I await the trial cause I have no idea. And I only await it because my animal soul requires understanding when probably there is none.
It's just messed up both sides and all ways round. A sad day for humanity in general.
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A little melodramatic...
2 people making stupid decisions and no one was killed is a sad day for humanity in general?
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05-03-2012, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CampbellsTransgressions
He knew he hit a guy and he still ran. If he stops and then the guys buddies come after him I would've given him a break.
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Well that's good, because he'd probably be dead.
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05-03-2012, 08:10 AM
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#36
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Originally Posted by ken0042
While I agree the drunks were certainly responsible for a lot of this; the one thing I keep looking at is the cabbie had a few opportunities to leave the scene prior to running over the one guy. His cab had already been attacked so it was no longer a matter of a few dollars. That might be what does him in- that he could have just left but chose to move back towards the group.
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I read somewhere that he had attempted to call the police and was staying at the scene so he could identify the perpetrators.
When he first peels out near the end he's going the wrong way down a one way by the looks of it, which could be part of the explanation. I imagine he's also panicking like crazy considering he's being swarmed by a bunch of people out for blood.
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05-03-2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Boblobla
A little melodramatic...
2 people making stupid decisions and no one was killed is a sad day for humanity in general?
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You don't feel sorrow when bad things happen to others? You don't furrow a brow when you can't understand fear and hate?
No, no nuclear reactor blew up, no tsunami washed ashore, but it's sad, no? It's a sad action of humans?
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05-03-2012, 08:11 AM
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#38
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Originally Posted by valo403
I read somewhere that he had attempted to call the police and was staying at the scene so he could identify the perpetrators.
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If that is true, it makes it very different, and it will come out in the trial obviously.
I actually hope this is the case.
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05-03-2012, 08:23 AM
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#39
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Originally Posted by Daradon
If that is true, it makes it very different, and it will come out in the trial obviously.
I actually hope this is the case.
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I should add that I'm pretty sure I read it in comments to the story, not positive where, so it should be taken with a grain of salt.
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05-03-2012, 08:33 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Daradon
You don't feel sorrow when bad things happen to others? You don't furrow a brow when you can't understand fear and hate?
No, no nuclear reactor blew up, no tsunami washed ashore, but it's sad, no? It's a sad action of humans?
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So you respond to the comment about melodrama with more melodrama?
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