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Old 04-20-2012, 10:45 PM   #21
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Which cut of Kingdom of Heaven are we talking? The directors cut is light years ahead of theatrical version.


And I loved me some Gladiator back in the day.


Haven't seen Robin Hood though. Word of Mouth killed that one for me

Felt that Robin Hood really dragged. Colour by numbers stuff.

Re Kingdom of Heaven, have seen both. The directors cut fleshed some stuff out, but when you have a lead that you can't invest in, it's pretty tough.

Always liked Black Rain though, can watch that movie once or twice a year and its always fun.
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Robin Hood was a disappointment, never saw Kingdom of Heaven ... Gladiator was f'in awesome.
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Robin Hood was a pretty big let down, but before that Body of Lies and American Gangster are both well excellent movies.

I think Matchstick Men is a good movie too.

Re: Kingdom of Heaven... The directors cut was worlds better but the Orlando Bloom character was still bleh.. It's a shame the story revolved around him because their were dozens of great actors with great roles in that film.
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Which cut of Kingdom of Heaven are we talking? The directors cut is light years ahead of theatrical version.


And I loved me some Gladiator back in the day.


Haven't seen Robin Hood though. Word of Mouth killed that one for me
Same goes for BladeRunner. Final Cut is the only worthy version of that movie.
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Old 04-21-2012, 12:22 PM   #25
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While the actual 'Alien' species doesn't look like it will be in it, it does look like what can be called nothing less that a prequel (albeit a bit of a reboot as well). Seems to show how the jockey's ship gets stuck on the planet it's originally found on, the origins of the 'company' (which I don't believe was even called Weylund till the 3rd or 4th movie, prior to that it was just cryptically called 'The Company') the origins of the synthetic humans (which I always thought was even more creepy than the actual aliens and had great potential for storyline) and perhaps even the origin or story behind the 'alien' species itself.

As far as the movies go, this is a franchise that desperately needs a reboot. I think a lot of the back story an interesting parts get filled in with all the book fiction, and comic fiction, etc., but the last two movies really messed the series up, and even the first two had some holes to fill (as I don't believe they had plans for it to get as big as it did get, and they had to rush to fill in story). And off course there were the PG-13 masturbatory nightmares that were the AvP movies that further messed everything up.

Either way, it looks like a good story and I'll be heading out to see this movie for sure.

EDIT: Also love how they use the Alien siren from the 1st movie/trailer in the trailers for this one. Hearing that sends me right back to be a kid and watching that movie and gives me serious fun chills! Here's the two trailers side by side for those that forget.




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I think I need to re-watch Alien and Aliens because I don't even remember the part with this space jockey thing or any aspects of the company. I do remember the androids though. . . seeing one getting ripped in half scared the hell out of younger me.
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I think it is so cool, that a mysterious art inspired scene from a film that was only 1:30 seconds, and a $500,000 set, has inspired a Mega blockbuster, 100 million + sci-fi epic 33 years later.

There is some great back story to this with HR Giger (creepy f'n dude!) comments on the design and set of the original space jockey.

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What this movie needs to be a real blockbuster is some Lance Henriksen.
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Like many good old movies, I have never seen the Alien movies, only parts of them. What exactly is the "space jockey"?
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Like many good old movies, I have never seen the Alien movies, only parts of them. What exactly is the "space jockey"?
Seriously, 2 of the best sci-fi mvoies of all time.

Alien.... defined the sci-fi horror genre. Jest one of those creepy, desolate, hopeless feels to it movies.

Aliens... in my opinion was Camerons first real kick at the big budget can after T1, which was a relatively low budget film, and he blasted it out of the park. It is my favorite action movie of all time, in any genre. Without spoiling anything, Henricksen has probably one of the most memorable scenes of all time in that movie, it is horrifying, and awesome all at the same time.

And to answer your question, the Space Jockey was some fossilized relic they found at the beginning of Alien, and a crashed alien ship that had sent out a warning signal to avoid the planet because of the Xenomorphs (aliens).
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And to answer your question, the Space Jockey was some fossilized relic they found at the beginning of Alien, and a crashed alien ship that had sent out a warning signal to avoid the planet because of the Xenomorphs (aliens).
To add, he (the fossil) was a humanoid (though about twice the size) that had evidence foreshadowing the alien species gestating in the belly and bursting out.

Also he looked like he grew into or out of his seat (hence the designation 'space jockey' by those in the know and the fans, though never used in the movie). He was basically one of H.R. Giger's creations, very typical of his work. I don't think they ever planned to explain the nature of that species, and why they looked like they kinda existed as part of a (an organic?) machine, it was just Giger doing his awesome creepy artwork.

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Sorta off topic, but thinking about the whole Mass Effect 3 ending and "re-take Mass Effect" reaction, it would be fun to see fans start a Kickstarter or similar project to erase Alien 3 from the canon and do a proper sequel to Aliens with Hicks and Newt intact. Lord that was a poor decision. (also i'm looking at you Star Wars episode 1).

having said that i'm not a supporter of mass appeal changes to original material or content, just that sometimes, stuff is too baffling or extreme to ignore

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Seriously, 2 of the best sci-fi mvoies of all time.

Alien.... defined the sci-fi horror genre. Jest one of those creepy, desolate, hopeless feels to it movies.

Aliens... in my opinion was Camerons first real kick at the big budget can after T1, which was a relatively low budget film, and he blasted it out of the park. It is my favorite action movie of all time, in any genre. Without spoiling anything, Henricksen has probably one of the most memorable scenes of all time in that movie, it is horrifying, and awesome all at the same time.

And to answer your question, the Space Jockey was some fossilized relic they found at the beginning of Alien, and a crashed alien ship that had sent out a warning signal to avoid the planet because of the Xenomorphs (aliens).
Like I said, I've seen most of both of them, but in parts and never in one sitting. Hopefully before the movie comes out I'll watch them both.
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I'm not sure what scenario involves watching Alien and Aliens where you watch it in 'parts', and not go back and watch the whole thing after the fact, given the 25 ish year gap where one could easily do such, but it must be a pretty interesting one.
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I'm not sure what scenario involves watching Alien and Aliens where you watch it in 'parts', and not go back and watch the whole thing after the fact, given the 25 ish year gap where one could easily do such, but it must be a pretty interesting one.
It's probably the fact that both movies have been on TV numerous times over the years and sometimes you see part of it, and never get around to see it.

I have only seen parts of Blade Runner...
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It's probably the fact that both movies have been on TV numerous times over the years and sometimes you see part of it, and never get around to see it.

I have only seen parts of Blade Runner...
Fair enough. I guess i just had too much time on my hands, and just devoured those kinds of flicks to the point of being able to picture some of their moments in my minds eye.

With Aliens, i remember having a VHS copy that i taped of the extended cut, with all of the gun-sentry stuff added.
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Yeah, the extended cuts from Aliens was great, although it might not have added much to the theatrical experience to leanr about Newts family life before the xenomorphs infiltrated.

The two memorable moments I took away from that movie were the exosuit scenes, and Bill Paxton's line, "That's it man, game over man, game over!"
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Bill Paxton is awesome. He's been killed by a Terminator, an Alien and a Predator.
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Aliens also was responsible for about 90% of the nightmares that I had. The other 10% were all Friday the 13th related.

Hmm... where has Bill Paxton gone? Looking at his later works, I would never have imagined him in those good sci-fi movies. Not that I would consider Predator very good. It seemed pretty cheesy even for when it came out.
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Aliens also was responsible for about 90% of the nightmares that I had. The other 10% were all Friday the 13th related.

Hmm... where has Bill Paxton gone? Looking at his later works, I would never have imagined him in those good sci-fi movies. Not that I would consider Predator very good. It seemed pretty cheesy even for when it came out.
First Predator was an awesome sci-fi action flick. My favorite Arnie flick not named Terminator 2. Paxton died in the sequel which was pretty bad.
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