04-19-2012, 12:02 PM
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#21
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Originally Posted by getbak
Irving effectively took the backup spot this year, and Feaster basically said as much in his end of season pressers.
I expect Karlsson to get moved in the off-season if any team wants him, or else he'll likely end up getting loaned to a team in Europe next season (or they could send him to Abbotsford if Taylor goes elsewhere).
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Yeah any time the Flames actually needed a backup to play they called up Irving. Then they'd send him back down and Karlsson would be the backup - until the next time the backup needed to play when Irving was called up.
I didn't think Karlsson was all that bad, but it's pretty clear management had no faith in him.
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04-24-2012, 11:01 PM
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#22
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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With the win tonight. that's TWENTY straight wins for Brossoit dating back to the 24th of February. He sits 1st in all goalie stats (wins, sv%, GAA, SO) in the WHL playoffs and has won the CHL goalie of week for the second straight week. You can't get much hotter than this kid.
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04-24-2012, 11:08 PM
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#23
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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04-25-2012, 12:35 AM
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#24
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Originally Posted by thymebalm
With the win tonight. that's TWENTY straight wins for Brossoit dating back to the 24th of February. He sits 1st in all goalie stats (wins, sv%, GAA, SO) in the WHL playoffs and has won the CHL goalie of week for the second straight week. You can't get much hotter than this kid.
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Amazing run. For those who say he's hiding behind a strong Oil Kings team, he did make 48 saves on 49 shots in Game 2.
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04-25-2012, 01:58 AM
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#25
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: lower mainland
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Originally Posted by Robbob
Don't know a lot about him honestly. Is he on a Keetly type tear or a legit goalie prospect?
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It's way to early to tell how he will end up. Keetly was a legit prospect, he just didn't pan out. Brossoit is a legit prospect. For him we'll have to wait and see. For all but a very elite few at his age (not even appearing every year), goalies are mostly longshots and fairly hard to predict.
I've seen quite a bit of undue negativity towards goaltending prospects from other posters. Statistically most goaltending prospects at his age won't make it to the NHL full time so in my opinion just stop fearing the unknown and just take it as a fact about the position. There's nothing wrong with being happy or excited with the success of a prospect though as it means your chances in the lottery of longshots is improving.
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04-25-2012, 08:01 AM
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#26
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It just goes to show you there are some young players develop at the later age. It also shows that's because you were drafted late round, you will not have any chance in playing in the NHL. I am not saying Broosoit will challenge for the spot right away but the way he's been playing lately, the future is looking good.
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04-25-2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by OzSome
It just goes to show you there are some young players develop at the later age. It also shows that's because you were drafted late round, you will not have any chance in playing in the NHL. I am not saying Broosoit will challenge for the spot right away but the way he's been playing lately, the future is looking good.
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Like Fotze said, you can't tell anything from how he is playing really. He's lights out right now, but with goaltenders, it may not mean much in 5 years
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04-25-2012, 08:11 AM
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#28
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Location: lower mainland
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Originally Posted by fotze
Until the goalie has a starting job in the NHL its an absolute HU-ore, to tell if they are going to be a good goalie. Don't even waste time following a goalie prospect, like following a certain bingo ball in the bingo machine at bingo.
That being said, he's played well, maybe, I think.
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It's only a waste of time to follow prospects as described if you feel it's only worthwhile watching virtually sure NHL'ers. It's fine if that's how you feel but many people simply enjoy watching the hockey where the prospects play and players being tied to the Flames is an added benefit. Many people also don't mind being excited about following prospects even if they know in the end there's a good chance of them not making the NHL.
Last edited by Stampede2TheCup; 04-25-2012 at 08:14 AM.
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04-25-2012, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fotze
like following a certain bingo ball in the bingo machine at bingo.
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Just to be sure: You're talking about bingo, right?
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04-25-2012, 08:15 PM
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#30
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by fotze
I was poor with my terminology, follow him to, obviously. Maybe I would have been better to say is pointless to 'predict future outcome' as opposed to 'follow'.
Goalies are just an absolute crapshoot until the day they make it. I have no idea what it is that makes them tick and how it gets them to the elite level. I think you can have poor confidence and be a good player, but a goalie needs the right stuff between the ears or they are done. We can't see whats going on in their head though.
Hell, following prospects is the only thing I have been interested in with this team for a few years now.
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Andre Trefilov is an example for me. Did very well everywhere but in the NHL, although I remember one spectacular game against the Rangers.
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04-26-2012, 02:25 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Sadly, I ruined his streak with my post. The Oil Kings got lit up 5-1 tonight.
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04-26-2012, 02:42 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Can't help but feel he could be another Keetley. Similar numbers on about equally skilled teams while picking up play in the playoffs.
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04-26-2012, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by themedicineman
Can't help but feel he could be another Keetley. Similar numbers on about equally skilled teams while picking up play in the playoffs.
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Honestly, so what if he is? He was a 6th round pick. He's doing well right now. He's elevated his game at a crucial time of the year. I have to think that Hockey Canada is watching what he does in this playoff run very closely, and that he's at the very least on the list of invitees to the summer camp, if not the main one in December.
I'm not saying he's gonna be like these guys, but of the top goalies in the modern game's history (Roy, Brodeur, Belfour, Joseph, Hasek) only one of them was a 1st round pick. Roy was a 3rd, Joseph was undrafted and Hasek and Belfour were taken VERY late. Kiprusoff was 116th overall. Lundqvist was 205th overall.
Wait and see what he does, he's obviously very mentally tough, and that's most of the battle right there.
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04-26-2012, 07:53 AM
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as mentioned, goalies are notoriously hard to project...prospects in general are, but goalies are the most difficult.
this is the exact reason why the Flames need to load up on picks and prospects and not trade them away; you are playing the odds with drafting, so you want to accrue as many picks as possible.
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04-26-2012, 08:17 AM
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Can we agree that a prospect playing lights out at this level is a better indicator of future success than playing like a sieve? Projecting him as a sure fire NHLer is dumb for the reasons repeated ad nauseum in this thread, but saying that his current stats are meaningless and he's sure to flop are just as dumb.
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04-26-2012, 09:35 AM
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#36
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
Honestly, so what if he is? He was a 6th round pick. He's doing well right now. He's elevated his game at a crucial time of the year. I have to think that Hockey Canada is watching what he does in this playoff run very closely, and that he's at the very least on the list of invitees to the summer camp, if not the main one in December.
I'm not saying he's gonna be like these guys, but of the top goalies in the modern game's history (Roy, Brodeur, Belfour, Joseph, Hasek) only one of them was a 1st round pick. Roy was a 3rd, Joseph was undrafted and Hasek and Belfour were taken VERY late. Kiprusoff was 116th overall. Lundqvist was 205th overall.
Wait and see what he does, he's obviously very mentally tough, and that's most of the battle right there.
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Belfour never got drafted. He was a FA signing out of ncaa.
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04-26-2012, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dammage79
Belfour never got drafted. He was a FA signing out of ncaa.
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Ah; I remembered him as being a 9th rounder or something.
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04-26-2012, 12:13 PM
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#38
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themedicineman
Can't help but feel he could be another Keetley. Similar numbers on about equally skilled teams while picking up play in the playoffs.
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I don't know if this is a really fair comparision for Brossoit. Was Keetley not an overager when he and the Tigers had the big playoff run and went to the Memorial Cup? Brossoit is 18-19 whereas Keetley was 20-21. Brossoit has been pretty impressive all year and I think you have to like his progress this season. Goalies are tough to project and he might never made it, but I definetly think he's shown some good steps and potential. I've seen the Keetley comparision a few times in this thread and I think there is a big difference between the two of them.
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04-26-2012, 04:05 PM
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#39
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I wouldn't worry too much about Brossoit getting a bit lit up in the playoffs. He has been stealing games for the Oil Kings so far this playoffs by the looks of things. Kipper looked 'human' at times in the '04 run as well. I would be more interested to see how Brossoit responds next game.
All goalies get lit up at times. Roy, Broudeur, Kipper, Lundqvist.. As long as he rebounds and has a good game next outing.
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05-14-2012, 12:01 PM
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Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Bump: Flames goalie prospect off to the Memorial Cup!
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