Jumbo Ski Resort Get the Green Light

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

No kidding, love when they go for the "10 car pass" on some of the straight-aways (winter or summer).

I just set the cruise at 95 in the park and try and find a spot between two clumps of traffic.

You know why I pass 10 cars at a time? Because I can.

Driving skills, they exist.

[Northendzone]

Fyp

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Driving skills, they exist.

[CrusaderPi]

Ooooo. You changed my post! That'll teach me.

[woob]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

You know why I pass 10 cars at a time? Because I can.

Driving skills, they exist.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

You know why I pass 10 cars at a time? Because I can.

Driving skills, they exist.

It's got nothing to do with driving skills, most times they attempt those passes at sections that don't have enough visibility up ahead and end up having to veer back into their lane when a car approaches. Their lack of knowledge of the road and the way they drive proves a distinct lack of skills.

These bozos are also the ones filling the coffers of the BC government and getting their cars impounded for 72 hours now. And for what? To get there maybe 10 minutes sooner.

Weren't we talking about a proposed ski resort?

[CrusaderPi]

Why is it so hard to believe that people have the ability to drive at a higher level than just locking on the cruise and accepting whatever pace other vehicles are going as there own? It is possible to safely pass multiple cars on an undivided highway. Likewise it is possible to be comfortable and experienced driving in crappy winter mountain conditions.

I would never advocate irresponsible and reckless driving, but acknowledging that other people are more skilled drivers is not a shameful admission. I've been driven by people with hundreds of thousands of documentable safe driving kilometers. They do and see things that far eclipse what I'm capable of. There's no shame in that, I try to learn and emulate.

Anyway, I'm all for a new ski resort.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Bunk

The trouble is that there's not such thing as a ski industry - only a real estate industry next to ski hills (unless you're very close to a big city). I question their ability to sell condos in such a remote location. But, who knows.

Interesting... how does Lake Louise work? Marmot?

[woob]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

Why is it so hard to believe that people have the ability to drive at a higher level than just locking on the cruise and accepting whatever pace other vehicles are going as there own? It is possible to safely pass multiple cars on an undivided highway. Likewise it is possible to be comfortable and experienced driving in crappy winter mountain conditions.

Anyway, I'm all for a new ski resort.

I don't think he's saying those people don't exist. I have also seen people pass multiple cars on 93 safely and without issue. However, having driven that road many many times in all kinds of scenarios, I can tell you that the jackhole drivers tailgating you, passing recklessly, and such, far outweigh those who drive like you say.

I like skiing!

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by Northendzone

securing financing should not be too much of an issue....

i guess i hate the idea of pristine wilderness being changed forever, but i am not much of a skier and i don't get out to panorama much.

as mentioned above the road to panorama is already tricky enough to drive - i could not imagine that drive being another 30k.....

The "pristine wilderness" was changed forever when they were mining and (still) logging back there. You only have to drive a few kilometres past Panorama to see the impact. If anything, opening up that area to international tourists will put more pressure on companies to clean up some of their leavings.

The valley actually opens up substantially once you get past Panorama and the road doesn't have to be carved into the side of the valley - it runs along the flat valley floor next to Toby Creek. Due to the logging, the roads are in really good condition and likely easier to maintain in winter (plowing) than the section out to Panorama.

[Captain Chuckles]

Originally Posted by CrusaderPi

You know why I pass 10 cars at a time? Because I can.

Driving skills, they exist.

I hope you are attacking territories in OTW as you pass

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by SebC

Interesting... how does Lake Louise work? Marmot?

Lake Louise is 85% Calgarians. Easy day trip and a big continget of tourists. Marmot I suppose lasts off Edmontonians (no closer option) and a pretty good swath of tourists in Jasper Park. A place like Marmot I bet is only marginally profitable.

Jumbo is 3:30-4:00 hours from Calgary - it won't have a high volume of day-trippers, so it'll have to rely on real estate and people who've travelled specifically to stay and ski there from abroad.

The phasing strategy within the Master Plan does a pretty good job of explaining the relationship between the real estate and the financing of infrastructure over the life of the resort development:

http://www.jumboglacierresort.com/do...GR-MP_2007.pdf

Pg 340.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by fotze

We need to bore a highway directly from Calgary to radium.

Yup. It always amazed me when I would fly from YYC to Invermere, straight line distance is just 151km!

[Yeah_Baby]

Highway 93 in the summer is probably one of the most fun stretches of Highway you can drive. I remember probably about 8 years ago I was driving my dad's car out there on a Saturday morning. Let's just say my dad drove a nicer car than I did, and it handled those curves like a dream.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Highway 93 in the summer is probably one of the most fun stretches of Highway you can drive. I remember probably about 8 years ago I was driving my dad's car out there on a Saturday morning. Let's just say my dad drove a nicer car than I did, and it handled those curves like a dream.

Highway 93 is a beautiful drive, a pity that there was that big forest fire back in 2003-2004 that wiped out a big chunk of the one valley. It has been nice to watch the forest grow back along that stretch.

[Bunk]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Highway 93 is a beautiful drive, a pity that there was that big forest fire back in 2003-2004 that wiped out a big chunk of the one valley. It has been nice to watch the forest grow back along that stretch.

I don't know, I find the burnt forest beautiful in its own way. It is a fantastic drive, although I wouldn't complain if it were a half hour shorter from Calgary.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by Bunk

I don't know, I find the burnt forest beautiful in its own way. It is a fantastic drive, although I wouldn't complain if it were a half hour shorter from Calgary.

It totally depends where you're driving from. Say if you lived in Valley Ride its a totally different drive then if you lived in Chestermere.

[woob]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Highway 93 is a beautiful drive, a pity that there was that big forest fire back in 2003-2004 that wiped out a big chunk of the one valley. It has been nice to watch the forest grow back along that stretch.

I remember following behind the spotter truck or whatever it was that summer. Man, that was a slow drive but it was very interesting to be that up close and personal to the whole situation.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Yup. It always amazed me when I would fly from YYC to Invermere, straight line distance is just 151km!

Interesting. I assume you flew a small plane yourself? Wikipedia lists Invermere as having a 3000 ft runway and no commercial service.

Would anything (other than business risk) stop someone form operating a small prop service from Springbank to Invermere? It'd be a pretty short flight, and lots of Calgarians (probably from that side of town!) own property in the Columbia Valley.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Interesting. I assume you flew a small plane yourself? Wikipedia lists Invermere as having a 3000 ft runway and no commercial service.

Would anything (other than business risk) stop someone form operating a small prop service from Springbank to Invermere? It'd be a pretty short flight, and lots of Calgarians (probably from that side of town!) own property in the Columbia Valley.

I would use it. I meet my wife up there sometimes at the family cabin near Radium and have rented cars before.

Fairmont Hot Springs has a 6000' foot runway that can handle 737s as well.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Interesting. I assume you flew a small plane yourself? Wikipedia lists Invermere as having a 3000 ft runway and no commercial service.

Would anything (other than business risk) stop someone form operating a small prop service from Springbank to Invermere? It'd be a pretty short flight, and lots of Calgarians (probably from that side of town!) own property in the Columbia Valley.

Yes I did, usually flew over in a Cessna 172. During the last boom it was not unusual to see chartered flights arriving in Invermere from Calgary and Edmonton. One time I ran into some old flying buddies operating a charter there with North Cariboo Air.