Campaign starts to adopt dog that killed Alberta baby

[GrrlGoalie33]

Originally Posted by Jacks

I don't know the details of the case but I heard on the radio that the dog had grabbed the baby by the back of the neck in the same way that mothers would carry young pups. They said that an older child would have had minor injury but the infant was too fragile for this. If anything you would wonder why an infant was left alone with the dog but it sounds like the whole thing was an unfortunate accident. If that is true you can't really call it an attack. My first reaction to the story was that the dog should be put down but now I just don't know if that is justified.

I had heard on the radio that the dog was distressed hearing the crying baby, and got out of it's kennel.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by First Lady

For all we know this is still a loving animal. 100's of dogs end up needing to be adopted because they nipped or bit someone. This dog happened to bite a 2 day old, the result is very, terribly unfortunate.

Had the child been older the result likely wouldn't have been the same. You probably wouldn't have heard about it and people certainly wouldn't be calling for it to be killed.

I'm not "calling for the dog to be killed", but it strikes me as a little odd that people will expend a bunch of time, energy, and money to save one dog that did kill a human when there are other dogs that are going to meet the same fate because other humans don't want them.

Granted, I am not privy to the inner-workings of this particular dog's brain, so I can't comment on its guilt or innocence, or how loving he is or is not, but if it's saving dogs that people are into, I'm sure they can use the resources it might take to save this one to save 10 others.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by Frankster

I had heard on the radio that the dog was distressed hearing the crying baby, and got out of it's kennel.

Could be both, either way it doesn't sound like it was any sort of vicious attack, more an instinct thing.

[dino7c]

people care more about animal rights than human rights...not just a comment on this story but society in general

[puckluck]

Some random guy from Vancouver should step up and adopt this dog.

[freedogger]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

do bears that attack humans in national parks get a second chance? i don't get why dogs are different, it's already killed a human so i don't see why you risk it ever attacking again

Me either. Certain breeds of dogs are more likely to attack people. Huskies are higher on the list than most.

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by freedogger

Me either. Certain breeds of dogs are more likely to attack people. Huskies are higher on the list than most.

Uhh no....Huskys are more standoffish and aloof, more weary of strangers but they are actually low on the list of breeds to bite.

Dachshunds, chihuahuas, cockers, poodles, and other small dogs are higher up on the list.

Edit: depends what lists you look at

[freedogger]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Once again, if there is present danger, then killing the animal before it causes further harm is justified. In the case of bear attacks on humans, the animal is generally killed during or very soon after the attack.

What a load of crap. Anyone can kill their own dog or cat. The only time law comes into play is if it is done in a cruel manner. There is no need to justify it.

[freedogger]

Originally Posted by Zevo

Uhh no....Huskys are more standoffish and aloof, more weary of strangers but they are actually low on the list of breeds to bite.

Dachshunds, chihuahuas, cockers, poodles, and other small dogs are higher up on the list.

Edit: depends what lists you look at

Yeah nice edit. Decided to research after you posted I guess.

Here's one such list:
http://www.lawyerfordogbite.com/dang...tistics-2.html
Consider the consequences of a small dog bit vs larger dog too...

[Zevo]

Originally Posted by freedogger

Yeah nice edit. Decided to research after you posted I guess.

Here's one such list:
http://www.lawyerfordogbite.com/dang...tistics-2.html
Consider the consequences of a small dog bit vs larger dog too...

Huskys get a bad rap because they aren't as freindly and outgoing with strangers like labs and retrievers.

Little yappy dogs bite more often, just don't do the damage.

[freedogger]

Originally Posted by Zevo

Huskys get a bad rap because they aren't as freindly and outgoing with strangers like labs and retrievers.

Wow...

[Sr. Mints]

My pug is a real #### and bites everyone who isn't me. If my fiancee sits on the couch next to me, the dog will charge across the room screaming her Xena battle cry and try to get between us or attack her. If someone bends down to pet her, her eyes bug out and she growls like an angry cat. The monkey on the Subway commercials will one day cost me a new TV, I know it.

As she's adopted, I wonder if she killed a baby before I got her.

Anyway . . .

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by freedogger

What a load of crap. Anyone can kill their own dog or cat. The only time law comes into play is if it is done in a cruel manner. There is no need to justify it.

What a load of crap indeed. You'll have to show me where I mentioned anything about legality. Legality and justification are separate issues altogether.

It's perfectly legal to put an animal down in a manner that does not cause it suffering, but by the same token, it's senseless to put down a perfectly healthy animal if/when better alternatives exist.

It's quite obvious that what transpired was an unfortunate accident, and was not a vicious attack on the part of the dog.

[pylon]

I say this as a lifelong dog owner and someone who loves dogs (not in the residents of Vancouver sense). The dog has committed the one unforgivable act, and should be put down. If it was my dog that did it, this decision and tax payer expense would have been spared, as animal control would be taking a carcass out of my home. Plain and simple, rover would have met the end of a shotgun barrel.

Think of how ridiculous this is. Had a human killed this child, by use of direct, traumatic, physical harm, intentional or not, the perpetrator would be locked up, awaiting trial right now. People would be outraged. The person life would be irreversibly ruined in the media innocent or guilty. We are feeling sorry for a dog, that killed a child? Are you insane? I don't care if the dog didn't 'mean it', she did it. And I would argue that yes, this dog is a danger. What is stopping it from making the same mistake, and confusing a child for a puppy again? If that is truly what happened.

The dog should be put down. Period. Case closed. End of story.

[Cole436]

Originally Posted by pylon

I say this as a lifelong dog owner and someone who loves dogs (not in the residents of Vancouver sense). The dog has committed the one unforgivable act, and should be put down. If it was my dog that did it, this decision and tax payer expense would have been spared, as animal control would be taking a carcass out of my home. Plain and simple, rover would have met the end of a shotgun barrel.

Think of how ridiculous this is. Had a human killed this child, by use of direct, traumatic, physical harm, intentional or not, the perpetrator would be locked up, awaiting trial right now. People would be outraged. The person life would be irreversibly ruined in the media innocent or guilty. We are feeling sorry for a dog, that killed a child? Are you insane? I don't care if the dog didn't 'mean it', she did it. And I would argue that yes, this dog is a danger. What is stopping it from making the same mistake, and confusing a child for a puppy again? If that is truly what happened.

The dog should be put down. Period. Case closed. End of story.

That's ridiculous. The dog was acting on instinct in a non-agressive manner. We're not talking about a person with the rational thought to distinguish right from wrong or accountability, we're talking about a dog who had recently given birth and acted accordingly to its instinctual reaction.
I put much more blame on the parents and allowing the circumstances for this event to take place.
In this discussion, the dog is not at fault. It was a terrible accident, but this dog should not be killed.

[FlamesAddiction]

As already mentioned, with so many dogs being put down every day, what makes this dog so special that it should be saved? The same people that are offering to take this dog should walk right down to the SPCA and adopt another dog.

I don't know what was going through the dogs mind, but I do know other people who own dogs and also have babies, and the dogs don't bite the babies. Why keep a dog like that around?

[Clarkey]

This is rediculous.

[ranchlandsselling]

Originally Posted by fotze

this is the dog human contract. You can crap all over our house, our parks, piss everywhere, destroy things we have, cause 10's of thousands of dollars of home value with your claws, let us have sex with you, get cancer and we will save you. But you don't kill us, unless its an accident, like bumping into someone at the top of the stairs.

a vancouver man accused of having sexual relations with one of his dogs has been ordered to stand trial on a charge of bestiality.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/accused+with+charged+with+bestiality/6211886/story.html

fyp

[Regular_John]

The stupid... it burns.

RougeUnderoos hit the nail on the head, there are many other dogs waiting/hoping to be adopted right now in shelters in every city/community in this country.

Literally every person who signs a petition to save this dog could stop at a shelter TODAY, take home a pet and STILL there would be animals that get put down because they were surrendered for some trivial reason.

Dog scratched up the hardwood floors? Put down.
Little Timmy wasn't feeding/cleaning up after rover? Rover goes bye bye.
An infant is dead... "This dog deserves a second chance and should be re homed"

This isn't even a debate about what the husky thought it was doing or it's intentions, this dog in question is in no way more worthy of adoption than any other pets at the shelter RIGHT NOW.

If you want to save tragic animals DO IT, go to the shelter, right now. Their waiting for you!

[burn_this_city]

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this campaign is demented and terribly misguided.