02-08-2012, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy
You don't put PC Pumps on wells unless they have sand production, typically (i.e. heavy oil). This is targetting the Viking and Cardium zones, light oil production and no sand.
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I've been involved in situations where we've put PC pumps/electric engines on wells for landowner relations reasons (less noise/visual impact). A pumpjack would probably be more economic, but if I was doing it I'd want it to stand out as little as possible...
Presumably the jack will be powered with electricity as opposed to solution gas for noise reasons.
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02-08-2012, 03:26 PM
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#22
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Originally Posted by nuclearpizzaman
we are probably all about to die because of this oil well and its evil corporate overlords.
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the truth is out there!
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02-08-2012, 03:30 PM
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Going to the forum about this on the weekend - well, probably. The company hasn't provided any ERP info, which is pretty shady.
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02-08-2012, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner
Going to the forum about this on the weekend - well, probably. The company hasn't provided any ERP info, which is pretty shady.
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They have to provide a plan to the ERCB as part of the licensing, so it's not like they wouldn't have completed one.
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02-08-2012, 03:48 PM
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So providing the details shouldn't be hard then.
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02-08-2012, 03:55 PM
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Likes Cartoons
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I'd say we attack the mormon temple as our first step. I will bring that brass angel statue home as a trophy for our conquest.
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02-08-2012, 04:12 PM
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When I see "Oil Well" I think of a joke my dad taught me when I was a kid. Say this out loud, really fast:
"Whale oil beef hooked"
(giggle, still makes me laugh)
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02-08-2012, 04:30 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by fotze
Those things tend to be absolute overkill repetitive crap. You wouldn't make it through the first few pages. Thats the ERCB, take something important, legislate it into something requiring a 500 page document rendering it useless for an 'emergency'.
In other news, the goddamn oil companies have hydrocarbon piped directly into my goddamn house. Thats crap sparks and my whole family are goner's.
These situations further show how disgustingly poor the government has done at educating its citizens on the oil industry that is so 'important'. A two day unit for high school students would do wonders. It really isn't that complex and 99% of every article written on it shows immediately how ignorant the media and most people are about it.
They interviewed some engineer about this well "who worked in the industry". Through the language he was using, you could tell he had no idea what he was talking about. (Iginla goaled an assist with his scoring rod). Looking at Apegga, he was a instrumentation guy in the oilsands, which means he knows nothing about wells.
The media is SOOOOO lazy, there are upstream petroleum guys on every corner of this city, ask them.
Ther are risks with these things, small, but I am sure the public will be worked up about the wrong ones due to the media.
The smallass size of this company would be a concern of mine, something goes south, the company could probably afford to kill the well for a day and a half before running out of money. Ya, ya Blowout insurance.
Also a company this size probably has 5 actual employees.
Also, demand the company gets cement to surface, no matter what, you abandon the well if you do not. I bet the company won't cheap out on cement and hole conditioning. ramble on
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It's difficult to spin a story along a preconceived narrative when you interview informed sources. I read the same uninformed crap about the Oilsands all the time.
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02-08-2012, 05:03 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary AB
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Originally Posted by fotze
Those things tend to be absolute overkill repetitive crap. You wouldn't make it through the first few pages. Thats the ERCB, take something important, legislate it into something requiring a 500 page document rendering it useless for an 'emergency'.
In other news, the goddamn oil companies have hydrocarbon piped directly into my goddamn house. Thats crap sparks and my whole family are goner's.
These situations further show how disgustingly poor the government has done at educating its citizens on the oil industry that is so 'important'. A two day unit for high school students would do wonders. It really isn't that complex and 99% of every article written on it shows immediately how ignorant the media and most people are about it.
They interviewed some engineer about this well "who worked in the industry". Through the language he was using, you could tell he had no idea what he was talking about. (Iginla goaled an assist with his scoring rod). Looking at Apegga, he was a instrumentation guy in the oilsands, which means he knows nothing about wells.
The media is SOOOOO lazy, there are upstream petroleum guys on every corner of this city, ask them.
Ther are risks with these things, small, but I am sure the public will be worked up about the wrong ones due to the media.
The smallass size of this company would be a concern of mine, something goes south, the company could probably afford to kill the well for a day and a half before running out of money. Ya, ya Blowout insurance.
Also a company this size probably has 5 actual employees.
Also, demand the company gets cement to surface, no matter what, you abandon the well if you do not. I bet the company won't cheap out on cement and hole conditioning. ramble on
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I am appreciative of this rant. I was going to give TTH a more crass and sarcastic response of: They'll show you their ERP when you turn over your 500 page ERP report for each of your BBQ propane tank and your natural gas furnace.
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02-08-2012, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fotze
Those things tend to be absolute overkill repetitive crap. You wouldn't make it through the first few pages. Thats the ERCB, take something important, legislate it into something requiring a 500 page document rendering it useless for an 'emergency'.
In other news, the goddamn oil companies have hydrocarbon piped directly into my goddamn house. Thats crap sparks and my whole family are goner's.
These situations further show how disgustingly poor the government has done at educating its citizens on the oil industry that is so 'important'. A two day unit for high school students would do wonders. It really isn't that complex and 99% of every article written on it shows immediately how ignorant the media and most people are about it.
They interviewed some engineer about this well "who worked in the industry". Through the language he was using, you could tell he had no idea what he was talking about. (Iginla goaled an assist with his scoring rod). Looking at Apegga, he was a instrumentation guy in the oilsands, which means he knows nothing about wells.
The media is SOOOOO lazy, there are upstream petroleum guys on every corner of this city, ask them.
Ther are risks with these things, small, but I am sure the public will be worked up about the wrong ones due to the media.
The smallass size of this company would be a concern of mine, something goes south, the company could probably afford to kill the well for a day and a half before running out of money. Ya, ya Blowout insurance.
Also a company this size probably has 5 actual employees.
Also, demand the company gets cement to surface, no matter what, you abandon the well if you do not. I bet the company won't cheap out on cement and hole conditioning. ramble on
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It is a little insulting sometimes that in general the people in Alberta have no idea how their main industry works, although on the otherhand it's pretty sweet because it makes it even more lucrative. When you think it's bad in Alberta try coming to Australia...they have no idea what's going on over here or how much money it's worth.
There are excellent technical people in Calgary...the paper shouldn't have a problem finding one.
From a technical point of view cementing is key, even with returns I would recommend going the extra mile and doing a casing bond log. I also fully agree with the size of the company being a bit of a red flag. If something goes wrong they'll just go belly up.
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02-08-2012, 08:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Elbows Up!!
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i went to the ERCB site and downloaded this planned image of rocky ridge and the walmart parking lot.
rocky ridge's new alderman...
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02-08-2012, 08:19 PM
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#32
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Originally Posted by trumpethead
Are you gonna work up a Number 6 on 'em??
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Ah hell no, we rape the #### outta them at the number 6 dance later on
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02-08-2012, 08:27 PM
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Scoring Winger
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What we should be asking is how do we tap this black gold before they get it. I'm not above claim jumping. Crap if its my mom's basement, its fair game isn't it?
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02-08-2012, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by freedogger
What we should be asking is how do we tap this black gold before they get it. I'm not above claim jumping. Crap if its my mom's basement, its fair game isn't it?
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Most things in your moms basement are fair game.
ha!
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02-08-2012, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowboy89
I am appreciative of this rant. I was going to give TTH a more crass and sarcastic response of: They'll show you their ERP when you turn over your 500 page ERP report for each of your BBQ propane tank and your natural gas furnace.
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I don't have either, and I'm not the company drilling.
Nice one though, derp derp derp.
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02-08-2012, 09:57 PM
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On Hiatus
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
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so is this just a plan for walmart to get into the oil business?
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02-09-2012, 09:56 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Violator
so is this just a plan for walmart to get into the oil business?
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I am pretty sure Walmart is already in the oil business
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02-09-2012, 10:36 AM
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#38
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fotze
Ther are risks with these things, small, but I am sure the public will be worked up about the wrong ones due to the media.
The smallass size of this company would be a concern of mine, something goes south, the company could probably afford to kill the well for a day and a half before running out of money. Ya, ya Blowout insurance.
Also a company this size probably has 5 actual employees.
Also, demand the company gets cement to surface, no matter what, you abandon the well if you do not. I bet the company won't cheap out on cement and hole conditioning. ramble on
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The size of the company is probably my main concern as well.
I also agree that the communities are likely getting worked up over the wrong issues .... that's why I came here for some real info.
So, if at the community forum, if I get up and say that I demand that they get "cement to the surface" will you be available for back-up when they ask me a follow-up question, like "Why?" .... "Hold on, I need to call Fotze, he seemed to know what he was talking about on CalgaryPuck"
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02-09-2012, 10:45 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Those poor inmates.
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02-09-2012, 01:13 PM
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Think of the children.
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