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Old 12-30-2011, 07:26 AM   #21
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This is great and all... But the only differentiating point you bring up is aesthetically pleasing options. I'm going right back to the better experience aspect of an iPhone. People such as yourself that enjoy Android phones have started using the ecosystem of support that Apple provides as a way to suggest their products are for old people that don't know anything about technology. It's really twisted and odd. .
No.

The iPhone is easy to use, that is one of the pluses Apple has used for years to sell their products, but it's annoyingly easy to me.

I don't understand your disagreement with this point. The whole "even my parents can use it!" has been a positive for Apple for years, but it's too simple for me. Don't get defensive about it.



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I'm really not sure how iOS 5 is dated? Is it because it looks the same as the home screen in iOS 1? OS X on Macs have looked similar for years... It's what Apple does. Change for the sake of change doesn't bring improvement. Consistency in design does not make something dated.
Two points..

I didn't say ios 5 was outdated, I said the user interface was. The design and interface is dated and boring. For a company that trumpets beauty above all, the ugly folders are a joke. You put a couple Apps in a folder, and then on the home screen you have a bunch of gaping holes in each folder. It is not pleasing to the eye.

I also find you disagreeing with this point hilarious too, and your response defensive. Remember what you said when the new design for the iPhone 4 came out?

You pointed to an article that said the previous design (1-3gs) was getting dated and it was time for a chance, and you totally agreed with it. This is where your fanboy shines through. When Apple comes out with something new and fresh for the user interface, you will then say it was dated and time for a change, but not a moment before.



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If I were to compile a list of your posts in Apple threads, it wouldn't take long to come to the conclusion that you hate on Apple very often. Your iPad is your way of saying "but wait my comments are valid because I own something from them." Anyways. Around we go
This is pathetic and sad.

I have some Apple products, I have some Samsung products, I have some Sony products, I have some Microsoft products.

Brand loyalty is stupid, and saying people just "hate Apple" because they prefer a different device is sad. I hate Apple as much as I hate RIM, Microsoft, Google etc... they have some products I like, they have some products I don't.

The Galaxy Nexus is a better phone.

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Old 12-30-2011, 11:12 AM   #22
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This is great and all... But the only differentiating point you bring up is aesthetically pleasing options. I'm going right back to the better experience aspect of an iPhone. People such as yourself that enjoy Android phones have started using the ecosystem of support that Apple provides as a way to suggest their products are for old people that don't know anything about technology. It's really twisted and odd.

I'm really not sure how iOS 5 is dated? Is it because it looks the same as the home screen in iOS 1? OS X on Macs have looked similar for years... It's what Apple does. Change for the sake of change doesn't bring improvement. Consistency in design does not make something dated.

If I were to compile a list of your posts in Apple threads, it wouldn't take long to come to the conclusion that you hate on Apple very often. Your iPad is your way of saying "but wait my comments are valid because I own something from them." Anyways. Around we go.
I have to say i disagree with this. I love apple products, they are high quality, well built, and have an unbelievable user experience.

For day to day regular use, the Apple in my mind is at the top. If you make phone calls, use facetime/skype, check emails, play games, surf the net, etc the iPhone is the best phone.

However if you want to read books on your phone/ipad, stream videos over a network, customize the view of your phone, basically anything outside of the basic phone use, the Android is a superior experience.

I find the iPhone/iPad extremely frustrating. To go back to my ePub example, i bought a book, and had the file. Emailed it to my android, downloaded a free epub reader, and read it. Done.

On the iPad, i emailed it, but it wouldn't download because safari didn't recognize the file. So i downloaded a different browser thinking it was safari, but that browser also wouldn't let me download. So figured it didn't recognize the file because i didn't have an epub reader installed. So i downloaded the app for the epub reader, then tried to download the epub file. Again didn't work. I felt like throwing it. Android does not prevent you from downloading any file, trying to open any attachment, whatever.

Even apps like Zedge on Android which aren't allowed on the app store, which give you access to hundred of thousands of free rings and notifications, but you can't get on the iPhone.

Plus most Android apps are free. Whatsapp/Angry Birds/Task Managers/File Managers/etc. all cost money on iPhone and are free on Android.

Basically apple make it easier....for the regular basic phone tasks. But if you plan on doing anything else, the android customization and non locked down system make it far easier.

Decide what you do with a phone. If its browse, play games, talk on the phone, use facetime, and check email i would get an iPhone. If you do more, get an Android.
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Like some posters in this thread, I got the iPhone for my mom. Galaxy for me.

iPhone was simple to use, not too complicated (unless you wanted to do file transfers), I could send her to the genius bar at the Apple store to get things fixed or if she couldn't get her itunes to sync or if her contacts were missing, etc. The geniuses ended up erasing all her data by mistake, but that's because they are not really geniuses. It's also glass and pretty so she likes it. It's already cracked in the back though and heavy with a small screen. Transferring files onto it or just getting her the ringtone she wanted without paying for an app or paying for a specfic one was hellishly complicated. Download app. Wait for app to email ringtone. Download e-mail on a computer. Add ringtone to itunes ringtones folder. Connect iPhone to computer. Sync iPhone and itunes.

With Android, you can just copy files to the microSD or plug in via USB, etc. I just drag and drop music files at will or I can just e-mail them to myself and browse the file system on the actual phone or even do a file transfer over my home wireless with free WiFi apps for Linux or Windows (uses Samba) that connects my phone to my home computer network. Android also syncs by itself with my google/gmail account and has native support and the best apps for accessing gmail/google maps, etc. while the iPhone versions are not as good (gmail app seemed to be intentionally broken) or have to be 3rd party (Apple is sourcing another company for maps now) because Google doesn't want to help it's competitor. If you use gmail a lot or google maps and navigation and other things in the Google ecosystem, Android will work the most seamlessly. You also aren't restricted to one marketplace for apps and you aren't at the whim of one company as to what is allowed and what is not allowed.

I also find it unfortunate how a company that prides itself on a beautiful interface currently has one of the most dated interfaces that has been leapfrogged by all it's competitors. The Android system has so many different launchers that the entire interface is customizable to look however a user wants. Couldn't afford an iPad for my mom at the time so I got her an Android tablet. I was able to customize the GUI so much that it works perfectly for her needs, is simple and elegant, and looks like an operating system GUI I invented myself with a very unique theme that matches the damn flowery vinyl skin she put on the damn thing. I would recommend ADW Launcher EX. That was 10 cents on the Google celebration a month ago. I know lots of people that switched just because of those 10 days of 10 cent apps. I wonder if they will have similar promotions again. Her iPhone 4S however, is just pages and pages of a clutter of icons and folders that you can organize but doesn't really look much different in the end.

Regarding warranty and support: Applecare is great and they will do instant swaps and repairs of your devices but you often have to pay for it separately and it's not cheap. If you buy the iPhone from a carrier, they may have warranty themselves so you will have to see about that. For Android, I know that my father's Galaxy had it's simcard slot destroyed (old people trying to shove in sim cards the wrong way...sigh) and Rogers repaired it for free in 3 days.

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Old 12-30-2011, 02:09 PM   #24
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The endless pages and pages off Apps, with the only alternative being an ugly folder system is am issue with me too, Hack. I've said it before but its an ugly interface at this point. I am okay with it on my iPad, but on a phone, something I use a lot more I couldn't accept it.

Android has a simple lay out of all your Apps sorted alphabetically in the Apps window, but then you choose which ones you want on your home screens. It is a much better and more elegant solution and I bet Apple goes to something similar soon.

I mean, I just hate Apple right?
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The endless pages and pages off Apps, with the only alternative being an ugly folder system is am issue with me too, Hack. I've said it before but its an ugly interface at this point. I am okay with it on my iPad, but on a phone, something I use a lot more I couldn't accept it.

Android has a simple lay out of all your Apps sorted alphabetically in the Apps window, but then you choose which ones you want on your home screens. It is a much better and more elegant solution and I bet Apple goes to something similar soon.

I mean, I just hate Apple right?
Exactly. Imagine if OSX or Windows forced to to store all icons for your applications on your desktop. You could put them in folders, but they would all still be a giant clutter of dozens of applications on your desktop. Even ones you barely ever use or don't use at all had to be there.

With most Android roms, applications automatically goto the app drawer (or whatever that particular flavor wants to call it) accessible from the dock and you leave them there or drag them to your launcher, dock, or "desktop" or into different app catalogs or just organize with whatever method you want for the ones you want to use or group.

OSX is famous for having a great app dock and management of your programs. So much so that the Mac OS dock is copied by many third party programs for other operating systems. They need a similar feature on iOS instead of just throwing all the apps in your face until you have 10 pages of apps and folders sitting there.

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Old 12-30-2011, 04:22 PM   #26
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For day to day regular use, the Apple in my mind is at the top. If you make phone calls, use facetime/skype, check emails, play games, surf the net, etc the iPhone is the best phone.
I can do all that on my phone as well... Why is it better on an apple device?
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:31 PM   #27
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Another thing to consider is the size of each phone. If you're talking about the newest Nexus you're getting over an inch extra screen on the diagonal when compared to the iPhone. Whether or not that's a good thing is a matter of preference. I personally prefer a smaller device for portability (though I'd like the iPhone screen to be a little bigger) but many people much prefer the huge display. To me that'd be at least as big of a factor as the OS.
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I took a chance and went with the Galaxy Nexus. I think I'll like it.
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I think you will like it. Really, you can't go wrong with either phone. I have been running a hack version of ICS for a month or so and love it. Works really well on my captivate.

I have become addicted to flashing ROMs and tweaks for Android so I see no way I could go over to Apple. I also got stuck managing cell phones for my company and we currently deploy about 22 iPhones and I see a never ending line of broken screens and dead batterys. We don't run Android so I have nothing to compare it to but in the year that I have had my captivate I have no issues that a power cycle hasn't fixed. The rest of the phones are BB. I have no problems with them other than the fact they suck. IT security guys still like them though.

Is the sky rocket coming to Canada? That is one badass sounding phone.
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