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Old 11-29-2011, 01:56 PM   #21
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I thought current copyright law is so grey area, the studios could never win a copyright case like this in Canada? That is why the Con gov't is updating the law, to be more friendly for the studios to sue you? I always assumed that is why they haven't pulled the lawsuits here yet?

Maybe this is the first step towards doing just that next year, after the new law passes?
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Old 11-29-2011, 01:56 PM   #22
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Weird, I just got an email from Telus today as well. I was just asked to stop sharing the file.

Edit- my email was regarding a different American company than the OP's.
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Old 11-29-2011, 02:39 PM   #23
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I can see the big studios planting pirated copies of older films, and putting in some sort of tracking software or something to trace where it is being downloaded. A Trojan horse of sorts.

Maybe they already do this, I am not up to speed on how piracy works, but it would seem to be a smart way to at least figure out, who is down loading what.
This is definitely done, in a couple of different ways.

Sometimes they'll put up a torrent that looks like its a good one, except that it never actually completes sending 100% of the information to everyone, so eventually everyone just sits at 99% forever.

Or easier is to just partake in an existing torrent with a custom client.

Either way, torrents work peer to peer so your torrent client knows the IP address of all the other computers that it has exchanged information with (to send and receive data).

When you have that IP address + a datetime stamp, you can in theory get the personal information from the ISP assuming they log what IP was assigned to whom when.

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I thought current copyright law is so grey area, the studios could never win a copyright case like this in Canada? That is why the Con gov't is updating the law, to be more friendly for the studios to sue you? I always assumed that is why they haven't pulled the lawsuits here yet?

Maybe this is the first step towards doing just that next year, after the new law passes?
I'm not so sure, I think part of the changes to the law are to actually avoid those kinds of lawsuits not enable them:

http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/5999/125/

With the intent being to differentiate between commercial for-profit pirating and non-commercial personal use, limiting the damages possible for personal making the huge lawsuits like the ones in the US not economically viable.

Though on the fact-finding side there's been attempts to allow warrant-less access to personal information from ISPs, obligating ISPs to provide the information if it's requested.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/1...20surveillance

But judges still have ordered ISPs to give up the info in cases:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/09..._n_958738.html

The ISP letters I don't think are overly risky, since I don't think those actually are a result from a court order to give up personal info are they? I think they're just someone giving Telus a list of IPs and a filename (and $$ probably) and Telus just sends out a form letter to the list. Worst case would be an ISP tracking how many letters and terminating your account I would think.
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Old 11-29-2011, 04:31 PM   #24
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Tell them that you have a wireless router without a password. There is no law saying you MUST password protect your router (although it's smart to do so). Say that someone else must have been stealing your wifi signal.
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