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Old 11-18-2011, 12:45 PM   #21
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That's a good explanation. I can appreciate that, as I'm sure alot of others around here can as well.
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Thanks for the reply.

I think your attitude makes the difference in this case; part of what makes spam spam is greed; leveraging an established community that someone has built over time for personal gain.

In your case there is still personal gain involved (you get to do what you want, make a documentary) but there's additional benefit to society (in theory anyway).
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Take a closer look. It's not about that at all. In fact this story is of critical importance to the energy industry and getting a more balanced, rational, pragmatic and optimistic story out about the future of energy. It's about looking at all options from an energy systems perspective and understanding that all fuel sources whether it's oil, shale gas, coal, nuclear wind, solar, bio-fuels have positive and negative unintended consequences. Yet, right now the debate is focused on fossil fuels are only bad, and alternatives are all good, free and benign. This is not a realistic picture, and the best way to address this is through better energy literacy. Keystone XL shows what happens when debates are controlled by energy illiteracy and inaccuracy. We need to make vast improvements to how we producer, distribute and consume energy, but tossing out one system in favour of another system without more forethought and vision will potentially get us into bigger problems.

Take a deeper look and at who some of our partners are already.
This is a great explanation. I find that there are rampant misconceptions about all forms of energy from chemical to nuclear.
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Old 11-18-2011, 01:06 PM   #24
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If you are not comfortable at this point in contributing by pre-buying the program, there is another immediate way to start participating in the project. I have a You Tube Channel, and a video challenge. Upload a video talking about what your biggest concern is about the future of energy. (this is the first of what will be many questions) You can shoot it with a phone, it does not have to be high-tech. Upload to You Tube and link to my channel (you'll see the question. http://www.youtube.com/user/IntentionalFilm1

Here is a sample done by the CEO of Questerre Energy. http://www.youtube.com/user/Intentio.../1/ASw9-kO6LUw
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Costumes are allowed if it comes with an intelligent point of view.
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Make sure and include Thorium in your nuclear portion. Video is probably lopsided but still Thorium is worth looking at.

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What I just can't fly around in custom and fling dolphins at Oil rigs?
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Make sure and include Thorium in your nuclear portion. Video is probably lopsided but still Thorium is worth looking at.

Yes, thorium for sure is a part of the discussion. Despite Fukushima(or perhaps as a result of - see George Monbiot's reversal), nuclear still has a future.
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I'm going to Japan over Christmas; I'm keen to get as close as possible to the contaminated zone and see for myself. Or at least how much such a disaster has affected the area.
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Last time I was there I saw Mothra. That was interesting, although he was stinky. Didn't want to be near him for too long
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Yes, thorium for sure is a part of the discussion. Despite Fukushima(or perhaps as a result of - see George Monbiot's reversal), nuclear still has a future.
Can you elaborate on Monbiot's reversal? I always thought he was pro nuclear technology.
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Monbiot wasn't pro nuclear, but neutral. Here's the article about his change since Fukushima. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...apan-fukushima
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Can you elaborate on Monbiot's reversal? I always thought he was pro nuclear technology.
Monbiot wasn't pro nuclear, but neutral. Here's the article about his change since Fukushima. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...apan-fukushima
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Thanks. I was interpreting "reversal" as anti to pro.
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Thanks. I was interpreting "reversal" as anti to pro.
Good point, perhaps should not have used reversal - maybe re-evaluation.
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You came to a Calgary-based forum full of oil and gas employees to make a movie about how bad oil and gas is?
This is what I hate about this city.

We're all making a ton of money off of straight up earth rape. Just admit it and enjoy it while it lasts. It's scary to think of what could happen to this place if the dream ends rather abruptly and the local economy doesn't have enough time to diversify. In the meantime, woohoo! $$$$$$$$$$$!!!!!
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One needs only to travel to southern Alberta to understand why what the OP is talking about needs to be heard.

I know Alberta is largely seen as an oil and gas province, but there is some serious wind power development going on. Simply putting up windmills isn't going to be the answer to all our problems, despite what the environmentalists like to think.

We need to investigate what the 'unintended consequences' might be.

No, the OP never paid me to say all that either.

I just find it highly hypocritical that the people who want to shut down the oil sands see no danger at all in renewable power.
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One needs only to travel to southern Alberta to understand why what the OP is talking about needs to be heard.

I know Alberta is largely seen as an oil and gas province, but there is some serious wind power development going on. Simply putting up windmills isn't going to be the answer to all our problems, despite what the environmentalists like to think.

We need to investigate what the 'unintended consequences' might be.

No, the OP never paid me to say all that either.

I just find it highly hypocritical that the people who want to shut down the oil sands see no danger at all in renewable power.


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