Amazing Race 2 hour final episode

[Radically Red]

I can see them wanting to keep things interesting but to have a team lose 16 hour lead to a team that was supposed to be handicapped is just not right IMHO.

I remeber the first season the winning and runner up team were done the race before the 3rd place team even started the last leg of the race. They went to the clue box and all it said was the race was over fly back to the States.

I thought that was ok. Rewards the real good racers and the not so good ones are weeded out.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by KootenayFlamesFan@May 10 2005, 09:02 PM
Ron: You were in the army and in Iraq...we get it.

Well, since he was taken as a prisoner of war I would think that would have a major effect on a person considering he was freed less than a year before the taping began.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

I'm pretty sure there wasn't any kind of fix. Rob and Amber were just better than the other teams, that's why they were around till the end. Uchenna and Joyce got on the plane because they begged and if there's room (and a camera around) sometimes airlines (and in this case the pilot, remember they called him) were willing to help out. Who knows maybe the pilot helped because it was the amazing race, that doesn't mean it's fixed. As for Uchenna hanging around to pay the cabbie, I'm sure there are rules saying that you can't do anything illegal to win the money, and I'm sure running out on a cabbie would be considered illegal.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by I-Hate-Hulse@May 10 2005, 10:17 PM
You may feel like you're #1 now Rob, but wait until that money runs out, and Ambuh ditches you like yesterday's news.

She won the money on Survivor so why would she leave him once the money is gone?

You may not like the guy but to predict that she's going to leave him is outside your realm of knowledge considering you've only watched them on television.

[ernie]

Originally posted by I-Hate-Hulse@May 11 2005, 07:57 AM
Lets not forget, if it weren't for that flat tire, Romber would be the ones running around begging for money.

Let's not forget that if Rob and Amber hadn't had the cab pulled over by the cops for a routine check they would have finished first in the leg......

edit to retype that which was lopped off somehow:

That and so what? Had Rob and Amber finished last, and were 7 hours behind the sompetition I wouldn't want them to be able to gain that ground because of bunching on the final leg. To get that sort of a lead on the last leg (a leg you started in 2nd place) and to have it nullified is ridiculous...no matter who was in first or last.

It makes the whole loss of money thing a farce and inconsequential....just like every other time it has happened. Same with the yields. These are two additions to the race that could be very interesting but have turned out to be non-events each time they've happened. I liked the fast forward on every leg but the last in the original incarnations much better. There was also much less bunching.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally posted by Reaper@May 11 2005, 10:00 AM

You may not like the guy but to predict that she's going to leave him is outside your realm of knowledge considering you've only watched them on television.

When someone decides to put themselves in the public's eye and make money off fame itself, sorry but you're opening yourself to superficial commentary. It's the price of admission. Don't televise your wedding and put your life on TV if you don't want the ridicule to go along with the adoration. I think I've given them enough time out of my life watching them on AR and Survivor.

As much as I'm not a fan of bunching the racers, would you have rather have seen 1 team finish 1 week ahead of the rest? I know I was glued to the set for those last 15 minutes.

Pretty easy Roadblock challenges in the finale, I still remember the locks on the Great Wall in AR6...ouch.

[Bertuzzied]

If there was no bunching at airports and venues this show would have been cancelled after the 1st season.

I still don't understand why teams are running around at 3am when everyone and their dog knows that the places would be closed.

I'd like to see the Amazing Race rulebook on driving. Do they have to go the speed limit or can they drive as fast as they can?

That cabdriver in Miami was dick compared to the guy in Jamaica. Uchenna and Joyce should give that jamaican cabbie 10grand for driving them around the whole island for $40us.

[ernie]

If there was no bunching at airports and venues this show would have been cancelled after the 1st season.

There needs to be some because you can't have a team 3 or 4 days ahead of the pack due to production and viewership problems. But in recent races the makers have been forcing the issue. There ends up being very little separation between teams and it is quite often coming down to dumb luck or a small mistake on one task on the leg. Teams that have run a 99% perfect leg are getting booted out while teams that cling to other teams and haven't a clue continue on. There is definitely no need for a 12+ hour bunching point on the last leg when the team arrived at the previous pit stop minutes apart. The bunching rendered the loss of money punishment ineffective and failed to reward a team having a very strong leg such that in a couple of hours they had already gained significant time on their competitors in that final leg. If taking the money from a team is not going to have any effect (and it hasn't since they started doing it) and if yields are not going to result in any drama (and they haven't since being introduced) why even have them?

I'd like to see the Amazing Race rulebook on driving. Do they have to go the speed limit or can they drive as fast as they can?

Depends on the country. In countries where speeding is a very serious offence they forbid teams from going over the speed limit.

[Calgary Flames]

Originally posted by Reaper+May 11 2005, 09:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Reaper @ May 11 2005, 09:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-KootenayFlamesFan@May 10 2005, 09:02 PM
Ron: You were in the army and in Iraq...we get it.

Well, since he was taken as a prisoner of war I would think that would have a major effect on a person considering he was freed less than a year before the taping began. [/b][/quote]
Less than a year? Not really. When did the war start? March 2002? He was freed shortly after the war began. They filmed this season fall/winter of 2004.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by I-Hate-Hulse+May 11 2005, 11:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (I-Hate-Hulse @ May 11 2005, 11:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Reaper@May 11 2005, 10:00 AM

You may not like the guy but to predict that she's going to leave him is outside your realm of knowledge considering you've only watched them on television.

When someone decides to put themselves in the public's eye and make money off fame itself, sorry but you're opening yourself to superficial commentary. It's the price of admission. Don't televise your wedding and put your life on TV if you don't want the ridicule to go along with the adoration. I think I've given them enough time out of my life watching them on AR and Survivor. [/b][/quote]
Just to be clear... I'm not questioning your right to make the statement.

I just think that your statement is bizarre considering:

1) Amber won the big money on Survivor so she doesn't need him to be wealthy because she was before he even proposed.
2) You have no insight into their off screen relationship that would suggest she would leave him once they have depleted their "Survivor nestegg."

It's just like girls in junior high starting rumours about someone they don't like.

[Reaper]

Originally posted by Calgary Flames+May 11 2005, 11:38 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Calgary Flames @ May 11 2005, 11:38 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Well, since he was taken as a prisoner of war I would think that would have a major effect on a person considering he was freed less than a year before the taping began.

Less than a year? Not really. When did the war start? March 2002? He was freed shortly after the war began. They filmed this season fall/winter of 2004. [/b][/quote]
Well, I guess I stand corrected on the timeline.

At any rate, I would think that being a P.O.W. would have a profound effect on a person and it would be a subject in the forefront of their minds.

[Radically Red]

I dont mind the equalizers at points it the race. I just see it as a way to keep the weaker teams in and punish the strong teams. Maybe have them every so often but they happen every episode. and its the last leg of the race. Let them race and not reward teams that do bad. Thats what happened to end this race.

The last leg should not have any equalizers. if a team is to slow/dumb to keep up or have lost there cash and fall behind so be it.

Whats the point of trying hard if you dont have to. The only part of the race you would really need to work is when you get to the pittstop. Otherwise there is little incentive as you will just catch everyone at the equalizer each time.

[Bertuzzied]

I can't wait until the next one starts. It's the amazing race family edition. It's great to see that yesterdays show was one of the highest rated.

http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/...5228|1|,00.html

I guess they should have showed more of Ambers ass throughout the first 12 episodes. hehe.

[ernie]

Originally posted by Radically Red@May 11 2005, 01:24 PM
The last leg should not have any equalizers. if a team is to slow/dumb to keep up or have lost there cash and fall behind so be it.

Which was the case on the first few races. I remember the second race in which the thrid placed team was still doing tasks in Alaska when the other two teams had already finished the race in New York. They picked up a clue that said "race and million dollars have been won." A few equalizers....great and necessary. Every leg and especially on the last leg I don't like.

[Radically Red]

Originally posted by ernie+May 12 2005, 11:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ernie @ May 12 2005, 11:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Radically Red@May 11 2005, 01:24 PM
The last leg should not have any equalizers. if a team is to slow/dumb to keep up or have lost there cash and fall behind so be it.

Which was the case on the first few races. I remember the second race in which the thrid placed team was still doing tasks in Alaska when the other two teams had already finished the race in New York. They picked up a clue that said "race and million dollars have been won." A few equalizers....great and necessary. Every leg and especially on the last leg I don't like. [/b][/quote]
I though that was the first race??

Either way. Equalizers on the last leg is a bad idea. Maybe spread them out a bit along the race.. but keep them out of the last leg...

[ernie]

Originally posted by Radically Red+May 12 2005, 07:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Radically Red @ May 12 2005, 07:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Which was the case on the first few races. I remember the second race in which the thrid placed team was still doing tasks in Alaska when the other two teams had already finished the race in New York. They picked up a clue that said "race and million dollars have been won." A few equalizers....great and necessary. Every leg and especially on the last leg I don't like.

I though that was the first race??

Either way. Equalizers on the last leg is a bad idea. Maybe spread them out a bit along the race.. but keep them out of the last leg... [/b][/quote]
Yep you're right that was the first race...and the hated Team Guido stuck in Alaska while millions of viewers breathed a sigh of relief those two weren't going to win.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally posted by Reaper+May 11 2005, 10:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Reaper @ May 11 2005, 10:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Less than a year? Not really. When did the war start? March 2002? He was freed shortly after the war began. They filmed this season fall/winter of 2004.

Well, I guess I stand corrected on the timeline.

At any rate, I would think that being a P.O.W. would have a profound effect on a person and it would be a subject in the forefront of their minds. [/b][/quote]
I realize that he was a POW and I realize it would have an effect on a person's life. I never said anything to the contrary. I fully respect anybody who puts their life on the line for their country, hats off to him.

My point was that the subject of the army came up in almost every second sentence of his. IMO, it got to be a little too much.

"I've flown a helicopter in the army, so driving a bus would be no problem".

"We didn't build rafts in the army."

Army this, army that, army this, army that.

I also realize the show might have done some serious editing, so perhaps he didn't talk about it as much as the show made him out to. Either way, it got to be a little much for me after a while.

My 2 cents.

[calgaryred]

best finish since the Amazing Race 5 sooooo happy to see Rob and Amber come up short!

[Joe Nieuwendyk]

Once again Rob finishes in second - I wonder how long it takes for him to propose to Uchena and Joyce?

[Flame On]

Don't mind Uch and Joyce but wish Rob/Amber had won. More cunning, more entertaining, better competator. That's why I don't understand the hatred towards him. What he's bad cause he's successful?? Why aren't Uch and Joyce hated for perhaps foolishly sinking all their money into conceiving, and after both somehow gotting laid off from a totally corrupt company/ies, the writing for which was on the wall very early.
As a team they were gracious to the others that were to them and at the end.
Agree about Lynn and Alex, super annoying and bitter.