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Old 07-14-2011, 01:55 PM   #21
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The guy in question is from Ottawa. Quebec separating will do nothing to change the Francophone population in eastern Ontario.
But it will remove the raison de etre (sp? ) of bilingualism. If you no longer have a "French" province, you no longer need to cater to this asshat, any more than you need to cater to a random Korean, Bangladeshi or Russian Canadian...
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But it will remove the raison de etre (sp? ) of bilingualism. If you no longer have a "French" province, you no longer need to cater to this asshat, any more than you need to cater to a random Korean, Bangladeshi or Russian Canadian...
Well, yeah, except for the 1.4 million francophones in Ontario and the overall ~2.5 million francophones outside Quebec. Is there any "ethnic" population in Canada that's that proportion of the population (i.e. 10%)?

And he is an asshat. I don't get people who try to "fight" the system. He should just deal with it. This guy has "jerk-ass" written all over his face. There's the exact same types on the other side who live in TMR or Westmount in Montreal - and refuse to do anything in French just because they can. The world is full of jerks.
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Well, yeah, except for the 1.4 million francophones in Ontario and the overall ~2.5 million francophones outside Quebec. Is there any "ethnic" population in Canada that's that proportion of the population (i.e. 10%)?
I assume the separation will be accompanied by appropriate ethnic cleansing... Plus, the Chinese population has to be pretty close to that, so we might as well add Mandarin as an official language.

EDIT: Not to mention, there are usually land swaps involved... we'll take the upscale part of Montreal and Quebec can have Acadia.
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The french are gutless and will back down to anyone. Francophone Canadians, as misguided as their priorities are, have a backbone.
I disagree. The French (from France) have hundreds of years of culture so something as minuet as a "Stop" sign, movie title or fast food resturant sign in English does not pose a threat to the culture they already have. Not having "Arret" on their sign isn't going to throw the whole country into chaos. Putting an English movie title on a poster isn't going to mean the Anglo's are creeping up on them ready to take their indentity away.

Whereas Quebec has only been around a couple of hundred years and do not have the same sense of indentity. They are like toddlers who think they need to assert themselves in order to find their place in the world. France is the mature one where they know their place and are willing to accept differences since they know the foundation is solid.
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Well, yeah, except for the 1.4 million francophones in Ontario and the overall ~2.5 million francophones outside Quebec. Is there any "ethnic" population in Canada that's that proportion of the population (i.e. 10%)?
Those numbers are for ancestry, not necessarily french speaking.
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Well, yeah, except for the 1.4 million francophones in Ontario and the overall ~2.5 million francophones outside Quebec. Is there any "ethnic" population in Canada that's that proportion of the population (i.e. 10%)?

And he is an asshat. I don't get people who try to "fight" the system. He should just deal with it. This guy has "jerk-ass" written all over his face. There's the exact same types on the other side who live in TMR or Westmount in Montreal - and refuse to do anything in French just because they can. The world is full of jerks.
From Ontario.ca:

"Ontario is home to close to 600,000 Francophones – in 2006, the total population of the Francophone community was 582,695 – an increase of 4,545 people since 2001."

"The Francophone community is older compared to the province overall – proportionately there are more seniors 65 years and over and fewer people under 35 years."

"The majority of Francophones (55%) reported French as the language most often spoken at home – although its use at home is decreasing across all regions except Central Ontario."
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Old 07-14-2011, 04:23 PM   #27
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Take a look at this guy's face. This is a posed picture. Tell me if this is not the face of a loon.

You'd expect to see this face on a psycho in a movie.
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I'm in favour of french stewardresses - ooh la la
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I'm in favour of french stewardresses - ooh la la
why so they can reject you in a different language?
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This is the face of someone you just want to hit. Total waste of carbon.
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I saw this guy on the news and heard the story and just wanted to punch him in the face
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:38 PM   #34
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Yeah this goes on quite a bit. When I was a kid I remember going with my old man into a campground registration office in Saskatchewan and a couple of french guys were having a hard time conversing with the registration lady. They got more and more offended went off in a huff and when they got out of ear shot of the lady at the desk started conversing with each other in completely understandable English. Not a big surprise, you can't spell ###### without that funny accent mark over the e.
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Sluggo's story leads me to an interesting thought- how can a person ask for a 7Up in French in a way that an English speaking Canadian wouldn't understand?

"Un 7Up s'il vous plait." Or is 7Up given some other weird name in French?

Maybe Air Canada should serve Coke products; I don't think "Sprite" is that different.

Next question, can AC ban him from their airline? I seem to recall in one of the contract law classes I didn't sleep through there being discussion that the only time a company cannot ban somebody is if they have a monopoly.
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The fact he is a francophone is irrelevant. The guy is a parasite who enjoys humiliating people and earns money by pretending to be a victim. He contributes nothing to society and certainly isn't a role model for francophones, who know he's a prick.There is a special place in hell reserved for this ahole. I can pretty much guarantee he has no friends and is probably despised within his own family.
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"Un 7Up s'il vous plait." Or is 7Up given some other weird name in French?
As far as I know, its "7up" in French as well. They don't call it "Sept Up" or anything weird like that.

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Although not exactly the same situation, when I have been abroad and English isn't an option, I haven't had a problem ordering anything. Ever. I always make an attempt to order in the country's language, which they always seem to appreciate. But if it gets down to hand gestures and charades, it usually ends in a good laugh for both of us and the correct order.

I now that he is trying to be stubborn to prove a point, but even as a full-on Anglo, I have ordered a "Mac Poulet" at Trudeau International because it was easier than throwing a hissy fit for a "McChicken".

And while I am probably more accepting and tolerant of bilingualism (even being monolingual myself) than most Albertans, arrogant idiots like this guy make me wish the whole Plains of Abraham thing carried a little more weight.
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why so they can reject you in a different language?
How did you do last night?
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Although not exactly the same situation, when I have been abroad and English isn't an option, I haven't had a problem ordering anything. Ever. I always make an attempt to order in the country's language, which they always seem to appreciate. But if it gets down to hand gestures and charades, it usually ends in a good laugh for both of us and the correct order.

I now that he is trying to be stubborn to prove a point, but even as a full-on Anglo, I have ordered a "Mac Poulet" at Trudeau International because it was easier than throwing a hissy fit for a "McChicken".

And while I am probably more accepting and tolerant of bilingualism (even being monolingual myself) than most Albertans, arrogant idiots like this guy make me wish the whole Plains of Abraham thing carried a little more weight.
The thing is....most French are real decent people. It is this turd and his ilk that make things like sandpaper.
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