Climate - World's Oceans At Risk

[Tinordi]

It's a shame that for most people, their most intimate contact with the oceans and marine life generally comes in the form of a can of tuna.

Which is contact canned in one of it's most destructive forms.

[bizaro86]

Interesting article about sea level changes.

http://www.nationalpost.com/climate+...113/story.html

[photon]

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Interesting article about sea level changes.

http://www.nationalpost.com/climate+...113/story.html

So conclusions change with more information and better models? Shocking!

The original estimates for ice-free summers in the Arctic were way far out and now have to be revised to the next decade instead of the next century (because of direct observations, see graphs I posted).

Does this article mean the National Post now agrees that AGW is real? Since they're talking about some of the consequences rather than the thing itself?

Or just a case of picking out the cases where some estimates of consequences were too pessimistic to fallaciously cast doubt on the whole thing?

[Thor]

NSFW!

[Shades]

Originally Posted by Cheese

Just wondering? Have you been using magic mushrooms so much that it has caused the inability to distinguish sarcasm from fact?

To be fair, there are a lot of idiots in the world today and it's sometimes hard to differentiate between the two. Especially if they don't know the posters viewpoints from a previous discussion.

[Vulcan]

More about the melting Arctic sea ice.

Scientists have long puzzled over why Arctic sea ice is retreating at up to three times the rate that climate models say it should.
In an effort to answer that question, a group of U.K-based explorers walked more than 500 kilometres of sea ice in the High Arctic, taking temperature readings of the ocean below them.
They found a layer of cold, salty water about 200 metres down that they suspect has come from the melting of first-year ice.
That meltwater has forced the relatively warmer water to the surface, where it's speeding up the decay of more ice.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...e-melting.html

and here are some of it's ramifications

The whale's odyssey and the surprising appearance of the plankton indicates a migration of species through the Northwest Passage, a worrying sign of how global warming is affecting animals and plants in the oceans as well as on land.

'It's a threshold that has been crossed.'—Philip C. Reid, Alister Hardy Foundation for Ocean Science

"The implications are enormous. It's a threshold that has been crossed," said Philip C. Reid, of the Alister Hardy Foundation for Ocean Science in Plymouth, England.
"It's an indication of the speed of change that is taking place in our world in the present day because of climate change," he said in a telephone interview Friday.
Reid said the last time the world witnessed such a major incursion from the Pacific was 2 million years ago, which had "a huge impact on the North Atlantic," driving some species to extinction as the newcomers dominated the competition for food.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/st...t-passage.html

We are like a drunk on a runaway folks.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by Thor

NSFW!

So you believe in Gaia, it's a start.