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Old 06-10-2011, 11:55 AM   #21
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Oh yeah....soliciting in public spaces is not cool. The worst part is I tried to make a one time donation to them and they said you had to commit to a payment coming off your credit card every month. Apparently a large part of the money collect never actually finds its way to the charity either. Charities in general are bad at donating actual money to their cause. This puts another level of people you have to pay between you and the cause.
In St. Albert last weekend they were doing this in the middle of the f'n street, a street with a 60km/h speed limit. There was a kiosk on the meridian, and on both sides of the street they had cones in the middle, leading you to the kiosk, and people with signs waving and flagging you in to get you to pull up & donate. And if you didn't comply, you got the icy stare of death from all of them as you drove by. Basically donate or you're a terrible person.
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:55 AM   #22
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Presumably at least some of that money goes to paying the people with the clipboards...
And their managers, and their overhead, etc. etc. etc.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:18 PM   #23
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I worked for a company like that in Toronto. It depends on the company doing it how much goes to the charity. Some even have commission, some don't. You can look at a break-down of where your donation goes to on a respective charity's website, generally, or, if you ask the people looking for donations, they should have one. if they don't, steer clear. Some companie sare also a lot more aggressive doing it than others, and this reflects on the charity, since they know full well the tactics used by the various companies that do this stuff. When I did it, we just stood on the sidewalk and said hi to people and asked if they had a moment to talk.

Also, a lot of charities these days (i.e., the majority), are trying to steer people away from one-time donations and move to monthly donations. It isn't limited to public solicitors. Besides that, giving one-time donations to people working on the street isn't safe, unless it's done with a CC. I used to have tons of people try to give me cash. Yeah, give me cash and let me get robbed or mugged, or give that cash to some guy working that won't think twice about stealing it.

As an aside, most people doing that work are paid for it, and aren't volunteers. There are reasons for this -- people on a payroll that are accounted for is a safer route than giving CC information to volunteers, can be held to a higher standard, and can more easily be held liable for anything untoward.

A legit company that is doing this, at least in Toronto, has a permit for a certain area of the city in which to work in that day. Not sure how it works in Calgary.
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:12 PM   #24
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Do you think the city really wants to deal with the backlash for fining Red Cross volunteers? (assuming they don't have some form of permit, etc)

EDIT: Straight out of panhandling bylaw (3M99): " but does not include a solicitation allowed or
authorized pursuant to the Charitable Fund-raising Act, R.S.A. 2000, c.C-9. "
Obviously not actual fines, but I think a bit of a suggestion that maybe chasing people down the street harassing them is over the line might be in order...
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:01 PM   #25
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Maybe somehow related to the development of the River Park, Sandy Beach and Britannia Slopes Park Management and Design Development Plan. Not sure, that process is mostly wrapped up.

http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server....nia+Slopes.htm
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Old 06-10-2011, 05:40 PM   #26
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I have seen this 'class' studying how dogs communicate. What a bunch of crrap. They are actually paying someone for this.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:35 PM   #27
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I decided to jaywalk when spotting them ahead, they saw this and shouted "are you just trying to avoid us?" I said "Yup".
They are every where sometimes, it's insane. I got off the train one afternoon at Lions park, and the damn fools were at the crossing waiting for people. You could see them salivating as people lined up waiting for dings to stop so they could pass.
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Old 06-10-2011, 11:02 PM   #28
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They do seem to be getting more rude.

I should probably call the city and report them for violating the panhandling bylaw.

http://www.calgary.ca/docgallery/bu/cityclerks/3m99.pdf

Because I've definitely been hit up by these guys at transit stations, and they've pursued me after I've said no once. It seems to me like that's in violation of this bylaw. I wonder if they'd pay the fine ($50) or take the year in jail...
Are you sure you weren't being pursued by the transit cops?

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