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Old 05-26-2011, 09:03 AM   #21
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I would say just check out what some of your favourite artists use. What tones do you like? Sure tones can come from the pickups and headers, etc. but it's a start.

Many guitars are great for a metal/rock crossover...and can even be lightened up for the ##### that is John Mayer.
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:08 AM   #22
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I have a Hagstrom Deluxe F I could sell you for $300.00 with original hard shell case. It's in a cherryburst colour, like the dude (if that's what you want to call him) in the panic at the disco picture! Great beginners guitar!

http://www.hagstromguitars.com/news_d2f.html
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:11 PM   #23
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I haven't run across one but I've heard great things about the Fender Squire Classic Vibe series



Also been hearing some good things about the Fender Pawn Shop line

A lot of these guitar right not coming out of China and Japan have some great quality when it comes to the neck and fret work.... once you get a little more cash you can swap out the hardware such as the tremolo and pots. Picksup from what I hear sound great and are hot
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:31 PM   #24
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I wouldn't mind renting, but I'm going back between Calgary and Edmonton a lot this month and not sure for how long... so I rather buy one and leave at my place.

The Hagstrom Deluxe F looks nice, what kind of tones do you get from it? Can it play rock/lead pretty well?
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I wouldn't mind renting, but I'm going back between Calgary and Edmonton a lot this month and not sure for how long... so I rather buy one and leave at my place.

The Hagstrom Deluxe F looks nice, what kind of tones do you get from it? Can it play rock/lead pretty well?
It has a nice warm and rich sound with all sorts of overtones galore. You can get a good grungy crunch sound at high levels as well.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:45 PM   #26
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:47 PM   #27
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Gretsch has some nice guitars in their economy Electromatic line.
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Old 05-26-2011, 12:53 PM   #28
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My first electric I went with a low end Ibanez (I think it was the AG series). Served me well for a couple years until I upgraded to my Blueshawk. But I also have a higher end Ibanez AS-83 and love it. I think you got to be spending at least 500 on a (new) guitar to get a decent sound.
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My first electric I went with a low end Ibanez (I think it was the AG series). Served me well for a couple years until I upgraded to my Blueshawk. But I also have a higher end Ibanez AS-83 and love it. I think you got to be spending at least 500 on a (new) guitar to get a decent sound.
On new guitars north of $500.00 sure, but you can get some great sounding used guitars for cheaper.
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Old 05-26-2011, 04:43 PM   #30
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I once (2006 or so) bought a stratocaster at axe music on 16th and 4th st nw that had been used for a demo for around $360. Maybe phone around and see if there are any demos like that for sale?

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Old 05-26-2011, 04:59 PM   #31
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Everything cheap will be awful until you put some work into it and/or swap the hardware, nor would a beginner have any sense of preference when it comes guitar and guitar related things.
Cheap guitars also tend to have un-true necks, crappy intonation due to poor fretwork (I actually cut my finger on a fret once trying out a cheap guitar), and are made of poor materials.

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Disregard the people saying spend more on a "higher quality" instrument. Starting guitar is like going to university. Most people think they know what they want until they start it, and majority switch after the first year(in this case that refers to guitar preferences)
I disagree. While nobody is suggesting breaking the bank, learning to play on good gear is so much easier than trying to learn to play on crap.

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Play a bunch of cheap guitars and find something that you like and find comfortable to play. The more you like your guitar, the more you might be inclined to continue playing until you become alright at it.
In your first paragraph you state "nor would a beginner have any sense of preference when it comes guitar and guitar related things." and then go on to tell them, with no skill or idea what they're doing, "to play a bunch of cheap guitars and fine something you like."


I would argue that being a complete noob and having a solid, quality instrument that can be trusted to play true is so important. This way the student not only gets a feel for what a real guitar should sound and feel like, they know that their progress is not being impeded by anything other than themselves.

Now, get back to practicing!
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:59 PM   #32
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Find the guitars that are in your price range and play them all for a good length of time.

At this stage, the only thing that matters is how it feels to you.

My parents bought me a guitar in the 6th grade and wanted me to take lessons but that felt too much like learning and school.

Once I picked it up a few years later and just started playing it for fun it became a real passion.

It's all about the feel!!
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Old 05-26-2011, 08:06 PM   #33
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Speaking of cheap guitars, has anyone ever played a Danelectro? I've heard those things pack some serious mojo.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:34 PM   #34
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BUMP!

Plan on spending my Holiday Bonus largely on myself and buying a new guitar. Looking heavily into the Gibson SG line. They start at aroud $700.00 new for the faded.

Are there better options for that price range.

I started out on a Squire Strat (although a nice squire compared to others I played). It was alright. Very unforgiving when your fingers weren't perfectly in the middle of frets though. Like something a little bit nicer this time around. Haven't played in four-five years.
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BUMP!

Plan on spending my Holiday Bonus largely on myself and buying a new guitar. Looking heavily into the Gibson SG line. They start at aroud $700.00 new for the faded.

Are there better options for that price range.

I started out on a Squire Strat (although a nice squire compared to others I played). It was alright. Very unforgiving when your fingers weren't perfectly in the middle of frets though. Like something a little bit nicer this time around. Haven't played in four-five years.
Unless you get a real lemon a faded Gibson is never a bad buy. However if you're willing to up your budget the faded Gibson Les Pauls start around the $850 mark.

I just bought a Les Paul from the Guitarworks in Crossiron Mills, the sales guy I dealt with, James Dow, was fantastic. No pressure and was great about respecting the budget I had given him.

Is there better at that price range? Maybe, but you won't go wrong with the faded SG. However take a look at Epiphone as well, it's Gibson's import brand so the models are very similar, but made over seas with cheaper components. Not bad by anymeans, but you can tell where the corners were cut.
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My first electric I went with a low end Ibanez (I think it was the AG series). Served me well for a couple years until I upgraded to my Blueshawk. But I also have a higher end Ibanez AS-83 and love it. I think you got to be spending at least 500 on a (new) guitar to get a decent sound.
You don't really need to spend $500 to get one with decent sound. Just get some good pick ups and it will sound good. My guitar was $320, but my pick ups were $200 (so basically a $500 guitar), the pick ups make a huge difference.

I want to splurge and get a Jackson V for like $1300. No money though.
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:11 PM   #37
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Unless you get a real lemon a faded Gibson is never a bad buy. However if you're willing to up your budget the faded Gibson Les Pauls start around the $850 mark.

I just bought a Les Paul from the Guitarworks in Crossiron Mills, the sales guy I dealt with, James Dow, was fantastic. No pressure and was great about respecting the budget I had given him.

Is there better at that price range? Maybe, but you won't go wrong with the faded SG. However take a look at Epiphone as well, it's Gibson's import brand so the models are very similar, but made over seas with cheaper components. Not bad by anymeans, but you can tell where the corners were cut.

The way I understand it is that the Faded are essentially the same guitars but with a less expensive wooden body. You basically save a few hundred dollars but give up looks?

Anyways, is this the Les Paul you are talking about? The studio:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--GIBLPSTWS
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Old 12-22-2011, 05:29 PM   #38
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The way I understand it is that the Faded are essentially the same guitars but with a less expensive wooden body. You basically save a few hundred dollars but give up looks?

Anyways, is this the Les Paul you are talking about? The studio:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--GIBLPSTWS
Yup, the faded models also have less finish on them which means less sanding/buffing/spraying, so less man hours. Basically a light satin finish instead of a heavy glossy finish. The basic core of the guitar is the same.

I heavily considered the faded les Paul before settling on the regular Les Paul Studio. (faded studio runs about $850, regular studio about $1,300)

If you can play both the SG and the Les Paul, see which you like best. But the faded SG is no doubt a nice guitar.
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Just to be clear, don't let me push ya away for the SG's if that's where your preference is. I'm just more of a Les Paul guy and the SG has never struck the same chord with me.
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Speaking of cheap guitars, has anyone ever played a Danelectro? I've heard those things pack some serious mojo.
Loved my Danelectro. Had a black '56 single cutaway. Wish I had never sold it, it sounded awesome!
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