I've never really listened to Dubstep before, I gave all these videos and songs a shot. Its not bad all and all, it totally reminds me of Garage/Speed Garage from 10 years ago.
So what exactly is dubstep?
Not trying to be a hater of the genre, it just seems like new terms for "electronica" keep being invented to differentiate every single slight modification.
I still think everything is a subgenre of either 'House' or 'Breaks'.
This is why I love BBC Radio. From what I've heard personally, they'be been instrumental in dubstep becoming mainstream in the UK and then being shipped out. They really do stick to their motto, "In new music we trust", and earlier this year had an entire day devoted to dubsteb. One of my favourite Essential Mixes last year was Pendulum, absolutely loved it! Living it Mitcham I guess I have no choice...
Mitcham eh! give the Phipps Bridge a big shout out for me..
So what exactly is dubstep?
Not trying to be a hater of the genre, it just seems like new terms for "electronica" keep being invented to differentiate every single slight modification.
I actually really like dub step but couldn't agree more. It's really pretentious to me the way that every time a slight variation occurs, it becomes it own genre. I think it's done largely so people can go around saying they know of a new style of music that noone else knows of.
Imagine if they did the same thing with rock....this song has a slight carribean inflence..a new form of music has been invented!
I actually really like dub step but couldn't agree more. It's really pretentious to me the way that every time a slight variation occurs, it becomes it own genre. I think it's done largely so people can go around saying they know of a new style of music that noone else knows of.
Imagine if they did the same thing with rock....this song has a slight carribean inflence..a new form of music has been invented!
The reason the UK has always been cutting edge is because it is essential that you can name drop some band or style that no one else has ever heard of.
The reason the UK has always been cutting edge is because it is essential that you can name drop some band or style that no one else has ever heard of.
Despite what the UK might think, I really don't credit them with much in the techno genre. House was invented in Chicago and then it deversified in the largely gay club scene of NYC.
I guess you can credit them with drum and base, but in reality, all they did was make house music more whitey friendly by pulling out the base and increasing the tempo and treble.
I have heard some dubstep I really like, and others that I can't stand. It really is the only genre for me besides country where it is completely hit or miss.
Wu-Tang did a dubstep album, that is really the only reason I even knew what it was.
I thought they did a really good job, I don't think it is traditional dubstep, so should we call it something else? Hah.. sorry.
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Despite what the UK might think, I really don't credit them with much in the techno genre. House was invented in Chicago and then it deversified in the largely gay club scene of NYC.
I guess you can credit them with drum and base, but in reality, all they did was make house music more whitey friendly by pulling out the base and increasing the tempo and treble.
I don't give the UK credit in anything, since 1958 the place has always specialised in being more aware of Black US music than even black americans,
House and garage to dubstep and grime were no different than the stones playing Howling Wolf in '65.
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Mitcham eh! give the Phipps Bridge a big shout out for me..
Yup, good ol' Mitcham! It's not the best suburb, or even the type of neighbourhood I moved to Europe to find, but I do enjoy living there. I'm actually in Calgary at the moment and it's a shame as last weekend would have provided a lovely afternoon to go watch Tooting and Mitch play!
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Despite what the UK might think, I really don't credit them with much in the techno genre.
What I do give them mad props for is getting things into the mainstream. Just have a listen to radio in the UK and compare it to what they play over here. The willingness to play a wide variety of music and give airplay to unknown artists is so helpful to developing music scenes and listening culture.
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What I do give them mad props for is getting things into the mainstream. Just have a listen to radio in the UK and compare it to what they play over here. The willingness to play a wide variety of music and give airplay to unknown artists is so helpful to developing music scenes and listening culture.
Yes and no. I also blame the UK for various Pop music formulas and hysterias that have set music back decades.
There are certainly some great music sources in the UK, but for every great source there's a dozen "spice girl" crazes, which have a downright horrific influence on mainstream music.
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Yup, good ol' Mitcham! It's not the best suburb, or even the type of neighbourhood I moved to Europe to find, but I do enjoy living there. I'm actually in Calgary at the moment and it's a shame as last weekend would have provided a lovely afternoon to go watch Tooting and Mitch play!
What I do give them mad props for is getting things into the mainstream. Just have a listen to radio in the UK and compare it to what they play over here. The willingness to play a wide variety of music and give airplay to unknown artists is so helpful to developing music scenes and listening culture.
lived on the Bridge for a few years, used to drink at the Red Lion, Colliers Wood and the Swan up Wimbledon way. Used to chase skirt round the jazz funk clubs on a Saturday night then listen to JFM on my radio Sunday morning!!
There are certainly some great music sources in the UK, but for every great source there's a dozen "spice girl" crazes, which have a downright horrific influence on mainstream music.
I'm the kind of person who would rather have the door open because although it allows the crazies in as well as, it doesn't keep out the goodies, which is what happens when you have a closed door policy. I'd rather hear five crappy groups five times in an hour than Katy Perry three times in a half hour.
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lived on the Bridge for a few years, used to drink at the Red Lion, Colliers Wood and the Swan up Wimbledon way. Used to chase skirt round the jazz funk clubs on a Saturday night then listen to JFM on my radio Sunday morning!!
Nice! That's what I love about Mitcham, so much to do close by and much within walking distance. My flat is off of Rowan Road so I'm closer to Norbury and all the goodies on London Road. Also, Croydon is just a bus ride away if I want to head to the hotbed of Dubstep.
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once again a music that developed in after hours clubs in South London and was 'discovered' by John Peel 14 years ago finally makes it to the great unwashed in N America.
Edited 'South' in there, respect to all the posses in Brixton, Clapham, Camberwell init.
Don't get all high horse about the UK, or anywhere else being ahead of N.A on dubstep. It's only now becoming mainstream in England. It's obviously existed there, and was basically invented there, but it didn't get much attention until recently. John Peel definitely pushed it forward during the early 2000's though.
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I'm the kind of person who would rather have the door open because although it allows the crazies in as well as, it doesn't keep out the goodies, which is what happens when you have a closed door policy. I'd rather hear five crappy groups five times in an hour than Katy Perry three times in a half hour.
Nice! That's what I love about Mitcham, so much to do close by and much within walking distance. My flat is off of Rowan Road so I'm closer to Norbury and all the goodies on London Road. Also, Croydon is just a bus ride away if I want to head to the hotbed of Dubstep.
The worst thing about Mitcham was having to stagger drunkly back from Colliers Wood tube or the night bus after a night 'up west' and the last Northern Line on a Friday or Saturday night was like a scene from Hogarth's gin drinkers most times, people shagging or puking or having to scrap it out with some other group of guys on the train.
I actually really like dub step but couldn't agree more. It's really pretentious to me the way that every time a slight variation occurs, it becomes it own genre. I think it's done largely so people can go around saying they know of a new style of music that noone else knows of.
Imagine if they did the same thing with rock....this song has a slight carribean inflence..a new form of music has been invented!
I don't think it has anything to do with pretentiousness, it's just a different rhythm composition than a traditional dance/electronica song. The percussion is more defined and has more reverb, and the inconsistency of the bass line makes it sound a lot 'dirtier' than a dance song.
Define impressive? I guess he gets the job done for the genre but I watched those two videos and IMO, he's not doing anything truly impressive. I'd give his playing a 3/10 for difficulty. He might have more skill than that, but his performance was very straight forward.
Hah.. sorry.
