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Old 03-12-2011, 02:19 PM   #21
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I think slowing down traffic in the left lane is full-blown ######ed thing to do.
Then use your horn, that's what it's made for.

Temporarily blinding someone while driving isn't safe.
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:30 PM   #22
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I doubt we are hearing the whole story.
Ordinarily I agree, but I once got a letter from the EPS for passing a really slow driver on the right on Anthony Henday Drive off a light. Their response was to call 911 and report me as a drunk driver.

There are people that petty.

That said, since there is never an overload of traffic on that spot of Hwy 2, I would have just passed the security truck on the right and gone on my way. I only flash high beams at a car in front of me if they are actively preventing traffic from flowing properly.
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This is why you have to drive fast enough they can't see your plate!
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Then use your horn, that's what it's made for.

Temporarily blinding someone while driving isn't safe.
I agree. Flashing lights in someone's eyes is unacceptable. You said you were driving a truck, your lights probably blinded the guy pretty good. Truck high beams lights can definitely blind a car driver.
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Old 03-12-2011, 03:57 PM   #25
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As for calling in a suspected drunk driver who had been swerving on the road, that is called a civic responsibility and in that case no one should just "mind their own business".
Agreed.

I always call the cops to report dangerous drivers.
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Old 03-12-2011, 04:36 PM   #26
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Then use your horn, that's what it's made for.

Temporarily blinding someone while driving isn't safe.
Sorry, but IMHO flashing your highbeams (as they are built by auto manufacturers with two modes for exactly this reason) to warn/get attention/etc is in no way dangerous unless you are deliberately flashing them 5-10 times+, or blinding them by leaving them on (whether its oncoming traffic or traffic in front of the vehicle). I personally warn drivers of speedtraps by flashing twice usually. I never, however, warn drivers of checkstops.

If someone is travelling improperly in the fast lane of course I'll flash my headlights at them to inform them of their mistake. It's actually possible to prevent an accident in this way.

I see the use of a horn to typically be obnoxious unless it is used to directly warn other drivers of an imminent danger, if another driver is driving in my lane, or is still stopped at a green light after ~5 seconds, etc.

There is , however, a huge difference between "Beep" and "BEEEEEEEEEEEEP"

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Sorry, but IMHO flashing your highbeams (as they are built by auto manufacturers with two modes for exactly this reason) to warn/get attention/etc is in no way dangerous unless you are deliberately flashing them 5-10 times+, or blinding them by leaving them on (whether its oncoming traffic or traffic in front of the vehicle). I personally warn drivers of speedtraps by flashing twice usually. I never, however, warn drivers of checkstops.

If someone is travelling improperly in the fast lane of course I'll flash my headlights at them to inform them of their mistake. It's actually possible to prevent an accident in this way.

I see the use of a horn to typically be obnoxious unless it is used to directly warn other drivers of an imminent danger, if another driver is driving in my lane, or is still stopped at a green light after ~5 seconds, etc.

There is , however, a huge difference between "Beep" and "BEEEEEEEEEEEEP"

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It's possible my eyes are more sensitive than others, but high beams blind me for half a second or more. I highly doubt I'm the only one on the road like that. Maybe you and others should reconsider this practice now that you know everyone does not react the same way to them.

I'd much rather hear an obnoxious sound. I don't really care if the other person finds it annoying.
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how well can someone hear a horn from behind traveling at 90km
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how well can someone hear a horn from behind traveling at 90km
Pretty well, it will just be a slightly different pitch I believe.
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It's possible my eyes are more sensitive than others, but high beams blind me for half a second or more. I highly doubt I'm the only one on the road like that. Maybe you and others should reconsider this practice now that you know everyone does not react the same way to them.

I'd much rather hear an obnoxious sound. I don't really care if the other person finds it annoying.

So you're saying an instantaneous on-off of the high beams blinds your for 0.5 seconds? I'm not talking leaving them on and then off. I literally flick the switch with my hand.
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Pretty well, it will just be a slightly different pitch I believe.
Double post, but yes, this is true. Doppler effect.
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i just think with a horn the people would look around but might not notice they should be moving over. at least with high beams they knows it's coming from behind them and gives a better hint. but really in victoria people don't know what the passing lanes means so you can honk, high beam, scream, etc. and it would never help.
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Double post, but yes, this is true. Doppler effect.
Not true, there's no Doppler shift if they're going the same speed.
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When running on cruise in the left lane on the #2 or Yellowhead, (in daylight hours) I routinely use the "flash" function of my high beams to alert others that I am travelling faster, and would prefer to not overtake them on the right.
In a perfect world, everyone would be diligent when it comes to the matter of "spatial awareness", but sadly, this is not the case.

This is exactly why automakers provide this feature in vehicles.

At night, I am much more "discerning" when it comes to using this feature and will never "flash" someone at close range; usually I just signal and pass on the right, if safe to do so.

As a side note...I wish a few more people would figure out the fact that you can use your accelerator pedal, without having to reset your cruise control. Those folks that sit in the left lane overtaking a semi at 2-3 km/h...I'm talking to you.

I would love to see how some of these "folks" would "cope" on the busier Interstates in the US. "Flashing" is common (in my experience) and no one seems to take any great offense down there...here?
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So automakers include high beams so you can flash other drivers, and not so that you can see better on a highway when you're traveling by yourself with no other cars around? Are you guys sure?
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Not true, there's no Doppler shift if they're going the same speed.
One was going 20-30 km faster than the other. Doppler shift is very noticeable.
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I never knew you weren't supposed to flash your high beams to tell someone to get over. I do it all the time--I guess because I have European parents, who do this all the time. Hell, when I was in Germany, I saw flashing all the time (and also on the road, by cars. ba-dum tish)
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I never knew you weren't supposed to flash your high beams to tell someone to get over. I do it all the time--I guess because I have European parents, who do this all the time. Hell, when I was in Germany, I saw flashing all the time (and also on the road, by cars. ba-dum tish)
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It's possible my eyes are more sensitive than others, but high beams blind me for half a second or more. I highly doubt I'm the only one on the road like that. Maybe you and others should reconsider this practice now that you know everyone does not react the same way to them.

I'd much rather hear an obnoxious sound. I don't really care if the other person finds it annoying.
Maybe you should reconsider driving at night it sounds like its very unsafe for you to be on the roads after dark
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Maybe you should reconsider driving at night it sounds like its very unsafe for you to be on the roads after dark
Thanks for your opinion. I'm sure it's a fully informed one.
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