Bieber Dies !!!

[Acey]

I watched this episode, haven't watched CSI in about 3 years. Boy, it has degenerated into pure crap.

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

Sorry guys, I don't get the hate for the Bieb. Young kid, wicked talent, made it with hard work, effort and determination, AND he's Canadian (like every other solid entertainer in North America). I am in awe of the kid and I hope the best for him.

Hard work, effort and determination = yes
Wicked talent = absolutely not

[jayswin]

Some of the things he says are so unintentionally funny, because like a lot of teens his age he tends to just say what he thnks without using any tact or thinkning about how his words will affect others. He had an awkward moment on Conan on valentines

Conan: So is valantines say a big deal for you?

Justin: Well, obviously my people don't think so, because they've scheduled me to work on it

Conan: Haha, this isn't work, it's fun, right? (making light of the comment in typical Conan fashion)

Justin: No (pause) ...this is definitly work (with a straight face)

Conan: Okay

[CaptainCrunch]

I think that as music fans we have to get used to the fact that the industry is going to change forever because of social media.

Reading some of the auto biographies of bands from my generation they really suffered to get notice. They played crappy bars, starved to death, did any kind of gig that they could get and prayed to get noticed. But that experience also forced them to write better music, refine their sound and refine their band and their musician ship.

Now all that you have to do is post on Youtube or any other like sites and hope that you generate hits. Hits = record deals, then they get into the studio and the music companies refine their sound and auto tune the sh%t out of it.

Its now the generation of the disposable one hit wonder musician, and its pretty sad.

I think thats why the quality of music is going down hill and we're getting plasti stamp it all sounds the same crap like Lady Gaga, Katey Perry, Bieber, Keisha and others. Because all of that music is written by the same people, played the same way and then fixed with a computer.

I miss the days when you would go and see a Cult concert for all of its warts and the leadsinger passing out half way through the show. Or you'd go to a Van Halen concert where the opening act was a polka band. Or you'd go to a triumph concert or a Colin James show and get blown away by the musicianship.

Now you go to a concert to marvel at the outfits and synchronized dance moves.

Even the harder edged bands are trying to follow the Nicholback model to success.

Now excuse me while I put on some Rolling Stones.

[sclitheroe]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Reading some of the auto biographies of bands from my generation they really suffered to get notice. They played crappy bars, starved to death, did any kind of gig that they could get and prayed to get noticed. But that experience also forced them to write better music, refine their sound and refine their band and their musician ship.

Now all that you have to do is post on Youtube or any other like sites and hope that you generate hits. Hits = record deals, then they get into the studio and the music companies refine their sound and auto tune the sh%t out of it.

Its now the generation of the disposable one hit wonder musician, and its pretty sad.

This sounds like every generation reflecting on the generation after them's music. You're too old for Bieber. It's OK. My 7 year old like Bieber, and its piqued her musical curiosity. I'm fine with that - the Rolling Stones will still be on the shelf (and no doubt still touring when she's old enough)

[Igottago]

Wow, a lot of oversensitive Bieber fans on this board. I'm sure no one really wants him to die. Most adult males are annoyed by teen idols. Its natural. Bieber sucks.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Coudn't they have shot him in the legs? Power hungry cops!

Ha ha ha! Oh puckluck how my girlfriend loves you... Dick.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by sclitheroe

This sounds like every generation reflecting on the generation after them's music. You're too old for Bieber. It's OK. My 7 year old like Bieber, and its piqued her musical curiosity. I'm fine with that - the Rolling Stones will still be on the shelf (and no doubt still touring when she's old enough)

Thats great and everything. I would suggest the use of subliminal teaching by playing Iron Maiden, Ozzy and Heart in her room while she's sleeping.

The sooner that you can break her from Beiber's feel good, elevator music the better

[Golden Jet]

I bet a lot of people enjoyed the shots to Bieber's chest & that's why it was done like that. Bieber died all the way to the bank & CSI raked in the ratings.

[Clarkey]

Isn't the terd from Toronto? Why does he have that faux New York accent?

[transplant99]

People ragging on a teen pop star.

Been done for, literally, 6 decades now.

Fabian, Paul Anka, Donny Osmond, David Cassidy, Debbie Gibson, New Kids on the Block, N Synch, etc etc etc...

The target audience is young folks. They are good at it. Who cares how "good or bad" they are. Its the same obsession as hating on a group like Nickelback. They are what they are, target the listeners who purchase them....whats the problem??

[Nufy]

I don't have a problem with him.

I don't like that type of music but am forced to listen to it through my kids.

I am thoroughly annoyed by the constant media barrage that is Justin Bieber...

The boy seems to be getting an ego that rivals a WWE wrestler but for real...


Personally I am waiting for his...."I am bigger than Jesus" speach...

[FlamesAddiction]

I'm not going to hate on the guy. Good for him for being so successful at a young age. I don't really buy the "hard work and determination" bit though. Being noticed on Youtube and then have everything else just happen is luck. There are probably many young people with similar talent, but maybe aren't as marketable.

I'm not really the demographic that he is trying to appeal to, but to me, his singing doesn't sound that great and the music is nothing new or groundbreaking.

But it is nice to see a kid do so well for himself and his mom.

[HodgePodge88]

Bieber makes more in a day than most north american families make in a week from what i heard.

[username]

The kid is like 16 years old can sing and dance. I personally don't like him but I can respect what he's done at such a young age.

As for the comment about bands that played in garages and dives barely getting by - welcome to the 1996 and the invention of the internet (ok it was around way before but you know what I mean). This isn't 1970, why should a new artist or a garage band for that matter not try to get discovered using uTube and whatever else is available to them. It's stupid not to. Do you really think a band would rather try to make name for themselves by playing in tim buck two's motel pub for 10 years or get discovered by releasing music over uTube.....I thought so.

Anyway, the kids talented. I'm pretty sure there's a reason why every major record label was competing to sign this kid. I don't get why there are people that hate him so much. If you don't like him, don't listen it's as simple as that.

I personally don't like his music at all but I can respect what he's done for himself at such a young age. You can't accomplish what he has without some talent - someone who says otherwise is either jealous or ignorant.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by username

The kid is like 16 years old can sing and dance. I personally don't like him but I can respect what he's done at such a young age.

As for the comment about bands that played in garages and dives barely getting by - welcome to the 1996 and the invention of the internet (ok it was around way before but you know what I mean). This isn't 1970, why should a new artist or a garage band for that matter not try to get discovered using uTube and whatever else is available to them. It's stupid not to. Do you really think a band would rather try to make name for themselves by playing in tim buck two's motel pub for 10 years or get discovered by releasing music over uTube.....I thought so.

Anyway, the kids talented. I'm pretty sure there's a reason why every major record label was competing to sign this kid. I don't get why there are people that hate him so much. If you don't like him, don't listen it's as simple as that.

I personally don't like his music at all but I can respect what he's done for himself at such a young age. You can't accomplish what he has without some talent - someone who says otherwise is either jealous or ignorant.

The biggest thing is that these people that are "discovered" on Youtube, don't have their unique sounds and that certainly doesn't get encouraged by the record companies who have these fresh talents that you can mold and create.

so we're getting all of the same sound, the same auto tuned poppy garbage with the same lyrics.

The bands that used to make it big took years to develop and the record companies signed them for their sound and their fan base.

The youtube generation is the king of generic music.

Yes Bieber is talented, but a few years doing the striving to become a signable talent would have probably made him more formidable.

All that Youtube discoveries are doing is allowing for a virtual mall for Tiffany 2.0 to play in.

[username]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The biggest thing is that these people that are "discovered" on Youtube, don't have their unique sounds and that certainly doesn't get encouraged by the record companies who have these fresh talents that you can mold and create.

so we're getting all of the same sound, the same auto tuned poppy garbage with the same lyrics.

The bands that used to make it big took years to develop and the record companies signed them for their sound and their fan base.

The youtube generation is the king of generic music.

Yes Bieber is talented, but a few years doing the striving to become a signable talent would have probably made him more formidable.

All that Youtube discoveries are doing is allowing for a virtual mall for Tiffany 2.0 to play in.

Well I think I'm going to have to disagree with you.

I agree that a lot of the music that comes out today does sound the same, however that's not the fault of music artists. Your beef seems to be mroe with the music industry as a whole imo.

As for getting signed based on fan base and sound. Well I would argue that uTube is the exact same thing except but rather than playing in dumps for ten years to get disocovered they are filming in their basements and putting it out to uTube. This builds up their fan base and can take years. For every one person that makes it due to uTube I bet there's a million + singers etc that don't.

In my opinion uTube is just a different medium but functions the same and ultimately has the exact same result.

If you want to talk about how music sucks these days then I think your comments should be directed at the music industry/executives rather than Justin Bieber.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

The biggest thing is that these people that are "discovered" on Youtube, don't have their unique sounds and that certainly doesn't get encouraged by the record companies who have these fresh talents that you can mold and create.

so we're getting all of the same sound, the same auto tuned poppy garbage with the same lyrics.

The bands that used to make it big took years to develop and the record companies signed them for their sound and their fan base.

The youtube generation is the king of generic music.

Yes Bieber is talented, but a few years doing the striving to become a signable talent would have probably made him more formidable.

All that Youtube discoveries are doing is allowing for a virtual mall for Tiffany 2.0 to play in.

Oh please. Every decade had it's share of lame, generic music. The 70s had garbage rock bands like Boston, Kansas, Foreigner, etc that were all pretty interchangeable, not to mention the disco phase. The 60s had the surf rock boom and then numerous bands attempting to copy The Beatles. The 80s had enough synth-pop that it'd be hard for the casual listener to know the difference between each band, and that doesn't even dip into how awful and similar all of the hair bands were.

Thinking the 90s, 00s, 10s are any different just reflects bias. As with any other decade, if you stick to listening to mainstream radio you're going to get formulaic crap that appeals to the lowest common denominator.

[FlamesAddiction]

Maybe a little OT, but...

His movie currently has a 1.1 rating on IMDB with over 18,000 votes. At this rate, it could end up having the worst IMDB movie rating of all time (by a big margin). Still #2 at the box office though.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1702443/

[HPLovecraft]

Overexposure will make you hate anything.

I liked dolphins, but now I hate them because of Telus.

I liked pizza, but now I can't stand it because of Panago.

[The Goon]

Originally Posted by transplant99

people ragging on a teen pop star.

Been done for, literally, 6 decades now.

Fabian, paul anka, donny osmond, david cassidy, debbie gibson, new kids on the block, n synch, etc etc etc...

The target audience is young folks. They are good at it. Who cares how "good or bad" they are. Its the same obsession as hating on a group like nickelback. They are what they are, target the listeners who purchase them....whats the problem??

You take that back about Debbie Gibson!!!