02-17-2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by valo403
It will be interesting, but that's the whole point of an actual trial. It blows me away how some people (not you Locke) seem to think that filing a lawsuit means you get paid. It doesn't work that way.
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Exactly. There are issues here:
1) What should Greyhound have reasonably done to ensure passenger security?
2) Did the RCMP handle the incident in a reasonable manner to ensure the well-being of the bystanders?
P.S. Greyhound may just pay something to avoid the (small) risk of the Court imposing security requirements...
I suspect nothing will come of this, but there are issues worthy of judicial consideration...
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02-17-2011, 11:34 AM
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Who thinks that way Valo403? definitely not anyone in this thread.
I don't know where anyone even hinted at thinking that way.
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02-17-2011, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by puckluck
Who thinks that way Valo403? definitely not anyone in this thread.
I don't know where anyone even hinted at thinking that way.
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The people outraged, or at least upset, at the mere filing of the lawsuit. The filing of a lawsuit doesn't mean anything, it achieves absolutely nothing without further action. There's nothing to be bothered by.
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02-17-2011, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by troutman
I'm sure this event would have been mentally shocking, but I can't see how a bus-line could reasonably forsee that something like this was possible.
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Rule #1 - sue EVERYBODY.
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02-17-2011, 11:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valo403
The people outraged, or at least upset, at the mere filing of the lawsuit. The filing of a lawsuit doesn't mean anything, it achieves absolutely nothing without further action. There's nothing to be bothered by.
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Oh, ok well the way you worded your post it made it seem like everyone didn't understand how the court system worked, and that the filing of a lawsuit meant an automatic win and instant wealth.
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02-17-2011, 11:45 AM
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Chances are the only people who will make money off this work in the legal system.
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02-17-2011, 12:16 PM
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My question to the plaintiffs, who made them watch Li taunt them with the head? nothing but their own morbid curiousity. case closed.
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02-17-2011, 12:24 PM
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but before the incident, was Li's mental health history limited just to depression?
I was under the impression that the violent schizophrenia only came into play AFTER McLean's death.
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02-17-2011, 12:26 PM
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$1M is outragous. They are basically saying this incident has decreased their net wealth by $1M because of this incident (due to lost potential income mostly, I suppose). It seems to me they are just looking for a little payout from Greyhound, and this is how it gets done (sadly).
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02-17-2011, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by puckluck
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In Alberta, the Fatal Accidents Act limits which family members could bring a claim and what they may claim. What you can claim is really quite limited and basically a given provided you fit within the definition of one of the parties entitled to a claim. You get a fixed amount for bereavement and other amounts to cover expenses related to the funeral, counseling, etc.
I imagine the situation in Manitoba is quite similar.
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02-17-2011, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fredr123
In Alberta, the Fatal Accidents Act limits which family members could bring a claim and what they may claim. What you can claim is really quite limited and basically a given provided you fit within the definition of one of the parties entitled to a claim. You get a fixed amount for bereavement and other amounts to cover expenses related to the funeral, counseling, etc.
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I wonder if the victims family could sue the RCMP for not stopping Li from eating their relative.
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02-17-2011, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Chances are the only people who will make money off this work in the legal system.
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Troutman?
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02-17-2011, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Chances are the only people who will make money off this work in the legal system.
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I certainly hope so - I would hate to think my plumber is going to make any money off this...
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02-17-2011, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
Call me a cynic but I couldn't shake the feeling during that TV special that one of the people was really enjoying her moment in the spotlight.
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Just out of curiosity, who did you feel that way about?
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02-17-2011, 02:39 PM
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Someone should remind them this isnt the US, they will be lucky to get 200K each for their "injuries". I am guessing Greyhound settles out of court.
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Last edited by mykalberta; 02-17-2011 at 02:41 PM.
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02-17-2011, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Someone should remind them this isnt the US, they will be lucky to get 20K each for their "injuries". I am guessing Greyhound settles out of court.
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fyp. Again, guys, stop taking what it says in the Statement of Claim so literally - it's just a number, mostly pulled out of the air, to give the lawyer plenty of negotiating room.
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02-17-2011, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mrkajz44
$1M is outragous. They are basically saying this incident has decreased their net wealth by $1M because of this incident (due to lost potential income mostly, I suppose). It seems to me they are just looking for a little payout from Greyhound, and this is how it gets done (sadly).
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Each of the two plaintiffs is actually seeking $3M. The article the OP provided is actually pretty clear about what they are claiming.
I continue to search for a rich benefactor who would be willing to pay for me to obtain copies of court documents like this so that I can make them public for all to see. If anyone is interested in paying the costs for obtaining these documents, let me know 
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02-17-2011, 02:52 PM
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BTW, the cost for pulling any lawsuit documents from Calgary courts is $10 + $1pp copying (last I checked), so about $15-25 for a Statement of Claim. If anyone is REALLY curious...
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02-17-2011, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
BTW, the cost for pulling any lawsuit documents from Calgary courts is $10 + $1pp copying (last I checked), so about $15-25 for a Statement of Claim. If anyone is REALLY curious...
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And here's the form: http://www.albertacourts.ab.ca/qb/pu...ch_request.pdf
... although the fees for Manitoba, where this action was filed, may vary.
EDIT: You can't get the actual documents themselves, but there is some limited information available online through the Manitoba courts here: http://www.jus.gov.mb.ca/Domain/File...=System.String
Last edited by fredr123; 02-17-2011 at 03:12 PM.
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02-17-2011, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
The witnesses on the Fifth Estate said they saw him taunting police/witnesses with the head, parading around etc. They saw him eating pieces of the victim etc.
Nasty, ......I still don't understand why Li wasnt shot and killed.
That being said I don't really support the law suit.
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So a guy has a knife and you want the cops to shoot him?!!?!?! I'm saving this post for all further cop threads 
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