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HotHotHeat · 02-04-2011, 04:27 PM

Just don't get how this happens so regularly.

TylerSVT · 02-04-2011, 04:35 PM

Apparently he was running on the tracks and tried to get onto the platform when he got hit... Sounds like a Darwin award to me.

Good thing it happened on a friday when all people want to do is get home. Sucks.

Igottago · 02-04-2011, 04:35 PM

The danger is always there as long as the ctrains are at the same level as traffic and as pedestrians. Just not walking in front of trains isn't really a solution. Humans are prone to error. Even the smartest of people can make misjudge something enough to put themselves in harms way. Investigating some safeguards wouldn't be a bad idea. As other posters have said, its not like this never happens. Calgary's c-trains seem to have incidents regularly.

frinkprof · 02-04-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

The danger is always there as long as the ctrains are at the same level as traffic and as pedestrians. Just not walking in front of trains isn't really a solution. Humans are prone to error. Even the smartest of people can make misjudge something enough to put themselves in harms way. Investigating some safeguards wouldn't be a bad idea. As other posters have said, its not like this never happens. Calgary's c-trains seem to have incidents regularly.

It's been done.

Robbob · 02-04-2011, 04:50 PM

Anyone know where the shuttles are to go south?

theonlywhiteout · 02-04-2011, 04:52 PM

Trains are back Delays of course

Robbob · 02-04-2011, 04:55 PM

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Trains are back Delays of course

I can live with that if they are back running. Maybe a good time to grab a bite to eat before heading home and hope it works itself out.

Hemi-Cuda · 02-04-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

The danger is always there as long as the ctrains are at the same level as traffic and as pedestrians. Just not walking in front of trains isn't really a solution. Humans are prone to error. Even the smartest of people can make misjudge something enough to put themselves in harms way. Investigating some safeguards wouldn't be a bad idea. As other posters have said, its not like this never happens. Calgary's c-trains seem to have incidents regularly.

fine by me, they seem to be enforcing Darwin's law with enthusiasm

theonlywhiteout · 02-04-2011, 05:12 PM

6 full trains at sait going north. Very annoyed right now

4X4 · 02-04-2011, 05:26 PM

According to QR, it was a drunk guy that somehow managed to fall between cars. Forgive me for my lack of sympathy, but the last thing Calgary taxpayers should be on the hook for is preventing deserved Darwin Awards. The tragedy with the little boy was once in 30 years. All these other idiots pretty much deserve it.

mrkajz44 · 02-04-2011, 05:33 PM

I don't understand why these incidents get so much more press than a car hitting a person. With the train above ground, it's almost the same thing. And in almost all cases it is the pedestrians fault. Don't blame the train.

Igottago · 02-04-2011, 05:39 PM

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According to QR, it was a drunk guy that somehow managed to fall between cars. Forgive me for my lack of sympathy, but the last thing Calgary taxpayers should be on the hook for is preventing deserved Darwin Awards. The tragedy with the little boy was once in 30 years. All these other idiots pretty much deserve it.

Well even if its not for sympathetic reasons, wouldn't it be worth it so that the trains don't have all the disruptions that come along with the incidents that "idiots" deserve? Surely you might be able to prevent idiot deaths as well as ensure a smoother functioning transit system.

chemgear · 02-04-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Just don't get how this happens so regularly.

If there is anything I have learned in my adult life, it is that the general population is predominantly filled with stupid people.

4X4 · 02-04-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

Well even if its not for sympathetic reasons, wouldn't it be worth it so that the trains don't have all the disruptions that come along with the incidents that "idiots" deserve? Surely you might be able to prevent idiot deaths as well as ensure a smoother functioning transit system.

What will they do to prevent the accidents at grade? That's where most of them happen. ######s who cant drive crashing into trains, and ######s with ipods jaywalking in front of trains. How many people actually fall off platforms? That's like 10% of the accidents.

frinkprof · 02-04-2011, 05:51 PM

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Well even if its not for sympathetic reasons, wouldn't it be worth it so that the trains don't have all the disruptions that come along with the incidents that "idiots" deserve?

No, because solutions proposed for preventing more incidents involve astronomical costs involved with redesigning and retrofitting station layouts, altering existing vehicles and how they operate, ongoing maintenance on new safety equipment, and would spur other safety and operational problems themselves.

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Surely you might be able to prevent idiot deaths as well as ensure a smoother functioning transit system.

Some, but not all. People still get hit and are injured or die with fully exclusive rights of way, subways, elevated lines, and even at stations with platform gates.

zamler · 02-04-2011, 05:53 PM

Calgary has one of the worst, if not the worst train system anywhere. It is simply beyond belief that a modern transit system could be so dangerous. The very nature of the system is prone to accidents.

Horrible, just horrible. And don't tell me that it is the persons fault. People have mental lapses, some people are vision or hearing impaired, there is a whole host of thing that can occur to cause someone to lose concentration and make a mistake. And in Calgary, that mistake can cost your life. Who ever designed the C-Train infrastructure should be taken out and shot, it's shameful.

Ducay · 02-04-2011, 05:56 PM

I consider us lucky, there are way more stoppages and incidents with fully buried light/heavy rail. Hopefully I can dig up a stat on subway "jumpers" that shows this.

You really don't get an appreciation for how many people the c-trains move until they're all stuck standing around on 5th and 6th Aves downtown. Quite the sight it was...

Mazrim · 02-04-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

Calgary has one of the worst, if not the worst train system anywhere. It is simply beyond belief that a modern transit system could be so dangerous. The very nature of the system is prone to accidents.

Horrible, just horrible. And don't tell me that it is the persons fault. People have mental lapses, some people are vision or hearing impaired, there is a whole host of thing that can occur to cause someone to lose concentration and make a mistake. And in Calgary, that mistake can cost your life. Who ever designed the C-Train infrastructure should be taken out and shot, it's shameful.

So I guess they drag out and shoot whoever designed SkyTrain platforms too? They're just as open and susceptible to delays from idiots as the C-Train.

That's a pretty ignorant comment you've made.

Ducay · 02-04-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zamler

Calgary has one of the worst, if not the worst train system anywhere. It is simply beyond belief that a modern transit system could be so dangerous. The very nature of the system is prone to accidents.

Horrible, just horrible. And don't tell me that it is the persons fault. People have mental lapses, some people are vision or hearing impaired, there is a whole host of thing that can occur to cause someone to lose concentration and make a mistake. And in Calgary, that mistake can cost your life. Who ever designed the C-Train infrastructure should be taken out and shot, it's shameful.

Jimmy Stang · 02-04-2011, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Igottago

The danger is always there as long as the ctrains are at the same level as traffic and as pedestrians. Just not walking in front of trains isn't really a solution. Humans are prone to error. Even the smartest of people can make misjudge something enough to put themselves in harms way. Investigating some safeguards wouldn't be a bad idea. As other posters have said, its not like this never happens. Calgary's c-trains seem to have incidents regularly.

I would argue that it is in fact the solution. I realize that people make mistakes, but there are plenty of ways in any given day that I could meet an untimely end. I do what I can to minimize the risks of living, but I certainly can't expect to be able to put common sense on the backburner and still come out alive.

I also don't think that this is a Calgary phenomenon. Trains, cars, and people intersect all over the world, and excluding the few exceptions, there's nothing but common sense keeping someone from certain death - anyone could walk in front of a train, anywhere in the world. We hear about them here because it is local news. Any subway, tram, train, etc. that I have ridden on has had open platforms. Some trains (like in Amsterdam) run right along the street and share with pedestrians. You hear the bell and you get out of the way - it's that simple.

I do hope that he's OK, but I would be willing to bet that he is a victim of his own actions.