Swine flu offers 'extraordinary super immunity'

[Vansmack]

Reasons for not getting a flu shot - the development time does not provide adequate testing to fully understand the potential side effects of the shot. They contain mercury and mercury is bad. Also there are cases of the vaccination actually causing more harm or death.

I don't recall ever having the flu. Flu like symptoms only occur after a night of undulging in JD. I'll continue to avoid these vaccinations

[zuluking]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

I don't really believe in influenza shots.

I haven't had one in like 10 years... haven't had the flu since.

I laughed at all the sheeple who waited in line to get their H1N1 shots, waiting in the cold, surrounded by sick people.

You know how i stay healthy? Eat good, exercise, and avoid sick people with the plague.

fyp

[Codes]

Originally Posted by Vansmack

Reasons for not getting a flu shot - the development time does not provide adequate testing to fully understand the potential side effects of the shot. They contain mercury and mercury is bad. Also there are cases of the vaccination actually causing more harm or death.

I don't recall ever having the flu. Flu like symptoms only occur after a night of undulging in JD. I'll continue to avoid these vaccinations

You and Tyler should team up and so some research on vaccines.

There's a great thread in the Off-Topic forum you should read.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by Codes

You and Tyler should team up and so some research on vaccines.

There's a great thread in the Off-Topic forum you should read.

I get very sick from any type of vaccination. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to get seasonal flu shots every year. My wife got H1N1 but recovered in about a week. I didn't get it and didn't get the shot either. I haven't even had so much as a cold in over 2 years.

Although I do believe it's important to get shots for important diseases, the flu shots just aren't a priority for me simply because they actually make me sick rather than immune to the sickness.

[Day Tripper]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

I don't really believe in influenza shots.

I haven't had one in like 10 years... haven't had the flu since.

I laughed at all the sheeple who waited in line to get their H1N1 shots, waiting in the cold, surrounded by sick people.

You know how i stay healthy? Eat good, exercise, and avoid sick people like the plague.

So that explains why you never went to school...

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

I haven't had one in like 10 years... haven't had the flu since.

Unbelievable. This is a break through. All this money being wasted on dumb vaccines and lives being "saved" and you just PROVED that the flu shot does not work.

Someone needs to call someone very important and let them know your findings. You have just become a very important part of science history good sir.

[jeremywilhelm]

I believe it. I got The Swine bad November of last year (09) and I haven't been sick since. Not even a cold. I usually get the normal flu bad at least once a year, but no cold or flu since the swine got me.

I never thought of that before. Uncanny.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm

I believe it. I got The Swine bad November of last year (09) and I haven't been sick since. Not even a cold. I usually get the normal flu bad at least once a year, but no cold or flu since the swine got me.

I never thought of that before. Uncanny.

The cold viruses and flu viruses are not related. Codes post mentioned this. Colds and flus are different things.

[jeremywilhelm]

Originally Posted by Burninator

The cold viruses and flu viruses are not related. Codes post mentioned this. Colds and flus are different things.

I know. But maybe the super immunity is a carry over into protection against the rhinovirus.

[Vansmack]

Originally Posted by Codes

You and Tyler should team up and so some research on vaccines.

There's a great thread in the Off-Topic forum you should read.

from a quick search of ''vaccination'' i found this thread

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=81375

I don't have time to read it right now, but approximately half the respondants of the poll indicated they wouldn't be getting the shot... I'm not sure what point you were trying to convey, but I really don't see why people are having a fuss on other peoples decisions to pass on these vaccinations.

I'm happy for everyone who wanted/received their shots. Just not something I will be doing anytime soon.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Vansmack

Reasons for not getting a flu shot - the development time does not provide adequate testing to fully understand the potential side effects of the shot. They contain mercury and mercury is bad. Also there are cases of the vaccination actually causing more harm or death.

Sooo much bad information in one paragraph, rather than debating this with you I'll just see if anyone else feels like the effort, your not condemning vaccinations other than the flu shot so I'll use my energy against those anti vax'ers who are causing more and more families to not vaccinate their children which I have a big problem with.

I don't recall ever having the flu. Flu like symptoms only occur after a night of undulging in JD. I'll continue to avoid these vaccinations

I haven't had AIDS yet, so really no need for me to take any precautions, pretty sure if I eat healthy and exercise I'll be golden.

This is the recent thread concerning vaccinations, but I'm assuming your not talking about kids not getting vaccinated but rather about adults and flu shots, not children or elderly.

Vaccines don't cause autism, duh!

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by puckluck

Unbelievable. This is a break through. All this money being wasted on dumb vaccines and lives being "saved" and you just PROVED that the flu shot does not work.

Someone needs to call someone very important and let them know your findings. You have just become a very important part of science history good sir.

Are you retarted? Is that what i said at all? Did i say that no one should take them? NOOO.

I stated my own opinion that i think they are dumb, i dont believe they work 100% and i think there are a lot of other ways to avoid getting the flu than getting an injection. Its all MY OPINION, and guess what... its based upon my own life experiences, if i got the flu now i would be more inclined to get the shot. But as it stands i am not convinced it does anything.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by jeremywilhelm

I know. But maybe the super immunity is a carry over into protection against the rhinovirus.

Perhaps, but the article/study said nothing about that.

[Codes]

I'm not sure if there are any similar coat proteins or other factors that the rhinovirus and influenza might share. Though, it's unlikely your H1N1 infection has anything to do with rhinovirus, since it's so variable. Perhaps H1N1 just gave your immune system a boot in the pants, and you're still working off that!

Vansmack, my comment to you was regarding the mercury issue. I don't want to get into again, but the point is it's not really a factor.

Personally, I don't get the annual infleunza shot because I do well enough on my own. In general, the shot should be reserved for the young, old, and immunocompromised since they are at the highest risk of infection and more severe symptoms.

I did get the H1N1 shot because of the unique antigens presented by this strain. We hadn't seen this particular variant since the the early 1900's and briefly in the 60's (IIRC). So, the younger generations of our current population has no immunogenic memory to the virus, and thus are at higher risk. We sort of dodged a bullet with this H1N1 strain being rather benign pathogenically. Things could have been far worse if it was like its 1918 cousin. It did show how woefully unprepared we are for a dangerous pandemic, however.

[Vansmack]

Just wanted to clear up that i'm not against vaccinations. As a child I had all of my vaccinations for mmv, polio, Hep, small pox etc.. I just don't see the need for a annual flu shot.

[billybob123]

Originally Posted by Codes

I'm not sure if there are any similar coat proteins or other factors that the rhinovirus and influenza might share.

No, they don't. Rhinoviruses are non-enveloped (no membrane) and have a protein shell (capsid) surrounding them; influenza is enveloped (membrane around it) with the (main) immunogenic proteins are in the membrane (hemagglutin and neuraminidase - the two proteins they use to type the virus e.g. H1N1).

And not all colds are caused by rhinoviruses. And, that is a general statement as well, there are dozens if not hundreds of rhinoviruses that cause colds. A large percentage of colds are caused by coronaviruses, among others.

[Codes]

All true.

Which is precisely why H1N1 infection won't lead to enhanced immunogenic response to the common cold.

[joe_mullen]

Originally Posted by TylerSVT

Are you retarted? Is that what i said at all? Did i say that no one should take them? NOOO.

I stated my own opinion that i think they are dumb, i dont believe they work 100% and i think there are a lot of other ways to avoid getting the flu than getting an injection. Its all MY OPINION, and guess what... its based upon my own life experiences, if i got the flu now i would be more inclined to get the shot. But as it stands i am not convinced it does anything.

just curious, but do you wear seatbelts? by your reasoning, if you've never been in a motor vehicle accident, there is no reason to wear a seat belt unless you've already been in an accident.

[TylerSVT]

Originally Posted by joe_mullen

just curious, but do you wear seatbelts? by your reasoning, if you've never been in a motor vehicle accident, there is no reason to wear a seat belt unless you've already been in an accident.

Way to reach....

[Kybosh]

That is no reach Tyler. Your logic for flu vaccinations is completely faulty. I suggest your read this book.