TIE fighter pilot saved the day

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Buff

Well, they started to clone the clones. You clone the clone, and not the original source (Jango Fett) and you'll start to see "defects". So over time if they cloned the clone of a cloned clone then the end result is some doofus who just doesn't belong in any kind of army. I mean, they fly into their bosses, bump their heads on doors and all that stuff. They certainly were a shell of their former self (source).

[CaptainCrunch]

Jeez, if you cloned clones it would be like a brother and sister having kids.

You'd have to have a quality control officer with a sledge hammer by the cloning machine.

[MarchHare]

Stormtroopers only had poor accuracy when they were shooting at the main characters, a trait shared by the bad guy underlings in any number of action movies. If you look at the opening scene of A New Hope, the stormtrooper boarding party is pretty lethal taking out the Rebels trying to hold them off.

Also, did the concept that the Alliance's fighters had shields but TIEs don't exist in the films, or was that something that was added later in the books and games? In the movies, Rebel ships aren't shown as being any more protected than TIE Fighters (that is, a single direct hit tends to take out both).

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Stormtroopers only had poor accuracy when they were shooting at the main characters, a trait shared by the bad guy underlings in any number of action movies. If you look at the opening scene of A New Hope, the stormtrooper boarding party is pretty lethal taking out the Rebels trying to hold them off.

Also, did the concept that the Alliance's fighters had shields but TIEs don't exist in the films, or was that something that was added later in the books and games? In the movies, Rebel ships aren't shown as being any more protected than TIE Fighters (that is, a single direct hit tends to take out both).

In the books they talked about Shields taking hits on the X-Wings.

I remember there were released source books and toys after Star Wars came out when they talked about the unshielded nature of tie fighters.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

In the books they talked about Shields taking hits on the X-Wings.

I remember there were released source books and toys after Star Wars came out when they talked about the unshielded nature of tie fighters.

Yeah, I've read some of those books and played the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games, but I think the idea that only Alliance fighters had shields was something that was added after the fact and isn't reflected in the movies. Most Rebel ships are destroyed after taking a single direct hit in the films, same as any TIE.

[CaptainCrunch]

All I know is that I really question the engineers in a galaxy far far away.

Tie Fighters that are one shot kills and no ejection system
XWings that are shielded but they die in one shots.
imperial Star Destroyers with easy to destroy unshielded shield generators.
A superstar Destroyer that probably doesn't have a second bridge in case of damage to the first bridge.
Death Star
Death Star II

[CaptainCrunch]

Oh I forgot, a blatent disregard for safety. There's not a safety rail anywhere on the Death Star.

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by united

This thread is full of AWESOME! Keep it up, guys.

The Cracked article lead me to Wedge Antilles' Wookiepedia page. Now this is what you call comprehensive!
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Wedge_Antilles

Wedge Antilles: Best pilot in the galaxy.

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by Bigtime

Wedge Antilles: Best pilot in the galaxy.

NOOOOOOOO!!! That's not true!!!!

[Bigtime]

Originally Posted by STeeLy

NOOOOOOOO!!! That's not true!!!!

He got to paint TWO Deathstars on his X-Wing. Luke only got one.

Scoreboard.

[CaptainCrunch]

If not for a faulty and poorly designed ejection system (Ever notice that the pilots didn't have oxygen masks in case of ejection.

This guy would have probably been the best pilot in the outer rim territories.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Stormtroopers only had poor accuracy when they were shooting at the main characters, a trait shared by the bad guy underlings in any number of action movies. If you look at the opening scene of A New Hope, the stormtrooper boarding party is pretty lethal taking out the Rebels trying to hold them off.

the best example of the accuracy trait is in the movie Face-Off. John Travolta and Nick Cage fire thousands of rounds at each other during the course of the movie without so much as a scape. but they are able to take out anyone else they please with a single headshot right between the eyes. maybe they both had shields too

[CaptainCrunch]

Holy crap, did anyone else realize that Porkins from Star Wars was also Ekhart in the first batman movie?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

i was going to make this same post, but didn't want to delve into that kind of geek depth. so, thanks

Haha no problem - those were such good games back in the day. Those and the Mechwarrior series . . . hawt!

[Mazrim]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

All I know is that I really question the engineers in a galaxy far far away.

Tie Fighters that are one shot kills and no ejection system
XWings that are shielded but they die in one shots.
imperial Star Destroyers with easy to destroy unshielded shield generators.
A superstar Destroyer that probably doesn't have a second bridge in case of damage to the first bridge.
Death Star
Death Star II

The Executor probably had a second bridge (A victory class Star Destroyer in the X-Wing book series had one!), but its proximity to the Death Star was too much to quickly recover from.

The destruction of the second Death Star was much more plausible due to it being under construction still. Makes sense to tackle it that way.

[Robbob]

I agree this thread is so full of awesome. It needs the Wieser men clapping gif.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Holy crap, did anyone else realize that Porkins from Star Wars was also Ekhart in the first batman movie?

I did not know that.

[Jackpot_Smooth]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

All I know is that I really question the engineers in a galaxy far far away.

Tie Fighters that are one shot kills and no ejection system
XWings that are shielded but they die in one shots.
imperial Star Destroyers with easy to destroy unshielded shield generators.
A superstar Destroyer that probably doesn't have a second bridge in case of damage to the first bridge.
Death Star
Death Star II

I would also guess there was another resulting storyline in this: the whole insurance industry in a galaxy far far away was in turmoil after all this destruction. Not just the payouts on the imperial policies but the allies wrote off A LOT of ships too. They probably never recovered from the first major claim with the destruction of Alderan.

[Jackpot_Smooth]

How much trouble would the empire have been spared if they listened to leah at the beginning when she sold out Tatooine as the planet with the base. destroy alderan for good measure to prove a point but also covers their @$ses for good measure.

a definite due diligence mistake on their part.

[CaptainCrunch]

And then there was the whole Rebel's are the worst mass murderers in the history of the galaxy.

I mean think about it, not all of the crew of the Death Star and Death Star II were evil, there were soldier's pilots and civillian contracters on both of them in the Millions, and those dirty rebels wiped them out in an explosive flash. The Executer had a crew of like a half million people (according to tech specs on the web) and every star destroyer had 50k.

Sure the Empire wiped out Alderaan, but Alderaan was the birth place of the Rebellion, and was the home to two of the Galaxies most wanted insurrectionists, and I'm sure that Alderaan refused to turn them over to the Imperials.

I mean outside of the Alderaan incident, who did the Empire really slaughter, a couple of hundred corrupt Jedi Knights who were trying to seize power? Ewoks? They took up arms against a lawful government appointed by the Senate to an unlimited term due to an emergency situation that really never ended.

Un named officer one had it right when he properly arrested insurectionists Han Solo and Leia Organa "You rebel scum"

Even the Millenium Falcon, illegally armed and clearly a ship taken up in arms against the Imperial Government.

His Royal Highness Emperor Palpatine was rightfully elected to the Senate, rightfully elected to the role of supreme Chanceller, and was then given emergency powers with the dictate of bringing peace and order to the Galaxy. I mean he was the ultimate in good leadership, he even saved a man who had been horribly maimed and betrayed by the Jedi Knights at great personal expense (Those suits ain't cheap)